Please Reach Out!

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Never pay back evil with more evil. Do things

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in such a way that everyone can see you are honorable.

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Do all that you can to live in peace with everyone.

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Dear friends, never take revenge. Leave that

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to the righteous anger of God. For the scriptures

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say, I will take revenge, I will pay them back,

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says the Lord. Instead, if your enemies are hungry,

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feed them. If they are thirsty, give them something

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to drink. In doing this, you will heap. burning

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coals of shame on their heads. Don't let evil

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conquer you, but conquer evil by doing good.

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Bumper Sticker Wisdom.

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I'm Jason. I'm John. Brother John's going to

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say a quick little prayer and we'll get started.

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Yes, sir. Heavenly Father, thank you for giving

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this time and this opportunity to us and just

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help us to take advantage of it. Give us everything

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that we need to make the most of it. glorify

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you and to draw people near to you, Father. We

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just ask that anybody who may be listening right

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now, Father, there's something there for them,

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some substance that will help them start to grow,

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to start to heal, to start to seek you, because

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that's the most important thing, to seek you.

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Because if we seek you, we will find you. Father,

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we love you, we thank you, and it's in Jesus'

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glorious name. Amen. Amen. Yes, sir. Thanks for

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doing that. Well, it was kind of a really what

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I was planning on doing. I didn't think that

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you were going to keep it. I was doing it just

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thinking like, man, I was like, I want to try

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that. You know, at first I was like, oh, yeah,

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he's just joking. But then I was like, it's fine.

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I'll just leave it. Really wasn't my intentions

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to go to the bowl. I was just trying it. I was

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really trying to use like a narrator's voice,

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and then you said that I sounded like an Asian

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trying to narrate a Korean movie. That's what

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it sounded like. I'm sorry. It was just... It

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was just the voice along with the. Yeah. Well,

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okay. So first and foremost, I do have a little

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bit of Asian blood in me. All right, bro. I didn't

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mean it like that. It just kind of came out.

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It just, what I heard came from a Bruce Lee movie.

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That's what I heard. Really? Bruce Lee. That's

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what I like. Jet Li or Jackie Chan. They had

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a lot of talking in those movies. Jackie Chan,

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they don't narrate like that. What I heard was

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like a 70s kung fu movie. You know what I mean?

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I can see that. It was very... Lord says. I don't

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even remember what it was now. That's the crazy

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thing. Don't pay back evil for evil. Let God

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do his work. Just real quick, I have to ask you

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this. Yes, sir. Knicks or Spurs? I'm on Knicks

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mainly because I can't stand the Spurs as a Mavericks

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fan. Well, me either, but I'm also on some Let's

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Go Texas. Yeah, I get that too. The only reason

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I'm pulling for the Knicks is it's kind of like

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the Buffalo Bills for me, right? Like it's a

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starved fan base. They haven't won in – I think

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it was in the 70s. Phil Jackson played for the

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Knicks the last time they won a title. You know

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what I mean? It's that far back. They've been

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close and never been able to get it done. Michael

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Jordan stopped them all those years. Then they

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do make it to the finals, and it's Hakeem Olajuwon

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and that team and the Rockets. You know what

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I mean? They couldn't handle Hakeem the Dream

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and Clyde Drexler. Was Robert Ory? I think Robert

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Ory is on that team. Really, really, really good

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players on that team. You know, that's the only

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reason why. It's not because of – I get it, too,

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though, the whole Texas proud. I am that guy,

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but I'm also very – I've always been a Dallas

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sports fan. So, Mavericks, Stars, Rangers, Cowboys,

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you know what I mean? Like, I've always kind

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of been that way. So, I don't really like the

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Rockets. I don't really like – The Spurs. See,

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I don't like them if we're playing them. Yeah,

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of course. Right? But if anyone else they're

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playing, yes. Yeah. And I get it. My dad's like

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that too. Well, through the regular season, I'm

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not a fan of any of them either because I'm like,

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I want my boys to shine. Yeah, I don't pay attention

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to them like that. But, you know, I'm not going

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to be sad if they win, but I'm not going to be

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sad if they lose either. You know what I mean?

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It's kind of where I'm at. I think it's a year

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or two. I actually think it's two years too soon.

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I don't know if – They're going to be good. They're

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going to be good for a while, honestly. They've

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got a lot of pieces. Victor Wimbanyama, he's

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a future MVP. I mean, he's got all the skills,

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man. He's KD with defense. Yeah. But he's also

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KD with like – five inches an extra an extra

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foot yeah yeah so it's like but he's he's uh

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that was the knock on KD coming in was that he's

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too small he's too skinny you know what I mean

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he's not got enough strength not enough body

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um Victor Wimbinyama's no bigger no he's bigger

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lengthwise yeah I mean I feel like he's honestly

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I feel like he's smaller skinnier yeah yeah yeah

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so uh that was always the knock on Kevin Durant

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he's not gonna have the strength to stand up

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in the NBA and he has been able to have a great

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career in the NBA, a Hall of Fame career in the

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NBA, one of the great shot creators that there

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is. But he doesn't have the defense that Victor

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Wimbledon has. Wimbledon has great instincts

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for the ball on defense. That's what he does.

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He gets to the ball. He's got the length. He

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blocks shots that you don't normally see get

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blocked. You know what I mean? Well, it's also

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because he has a – He probably has like a 40

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-inch vertical, and he's 7 -foot stupid. You

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know what I mean? So he's out there 11 freaking

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feet. It's really hard to shoot over an 11 -foot

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freaking target. Yeah, 100%. So, you know, I

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think the Spurs' time will come again. They're

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going to have another championship soon. This

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series ain't over by any stretch. I know it's

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2 -0, but. Game three always has a thing, and

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this is now being played in San Antonio. If the

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home team wins out right now, this is an even

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series going back to New York, right? And so

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if you get it back to even – I thought it was

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– I thought the first two games were in San Antonio.

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I don't think so, no. I thought that was – Okay,

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look it up for me. I thought that was like the

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big deal. I thought they were – you know what?

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I'm – Dude, I thought that was like the big deal.

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You might be right. That's how well I'm paying

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attention, too, though, because I thought they

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were playing at the Garden the first two games.

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I like game sevens, too. Yeah, they're in Madison

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Square Garden tonight. Okay, so they played the

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first two on the road. So they're down two, and

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the Knicks have them at home the next three.

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It goes 2 -3 -2, right? Is it still that way?

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It used to be 2 -3 -2, and then I thought they

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changed it to 2 -2 -1 -1 -1. Two for the primary

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home team. Two to start. And then one home at

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home. It just started. It's nothing, nothing

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right now. Anyway, that's beside the point. At

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the end of the day, I'm kind of one of those,

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like, if I don't have a rooting interest, I go

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for the team that's been the longest or has never

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won it. So, like, I hate Oklahoma City, too,

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but I was pulling for them last year. You know

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what I mean? Yeah, I was not pulling for them

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this year. No, I wasn't pulling for them this

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year either. You know what I mean? Like, I won't.

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If it's not my team, right? No, I'm saying when

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it was OKC and the Spurs, I was hard on the Spurs.

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Like, let's go. Let's go, yeah. And, yeah, I'm

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like that too. It's like that for me with. All

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sports. I'm just that way. Like, when it gets

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down to that last, like, four to eight teams,

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I start looking at the teams that either never

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won it or it's been the longest. Yeah. Right?

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So, in the NFL, you know, it gets to the conference

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championship game and the Falcons and the Bills

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are in there, and the NFC and one of the AFC.

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I want those two teams to win because neither

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one of those has ever won. Yeah. And the Vikings.

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Yeah, the Vikings, right? Unless they're playing

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the Cowboys. If they're playing the Cowboys,

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then obviously I'm pulling for the Cowboys, right?

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I'm like that in all sports. I don't know why.

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I can't pull for A &M. I can't pull for Tech.

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I can't. I do pull for A &M. When they're not

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playing us, I pull for them. But Tech, that's

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a whole other thing. And while we're on the subject

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of Tech, how about that repeat of the natty boy?

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Yeah. The ladies got it done. Back -to -back.

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Yeah. That's crazy. That was the first back -to

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-back rematch. In like 23 or 26 years. It was

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like a long time. Yeah. Not the first repeat

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champion, but the first repeat. Rematch. Rematch.

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A very long time. In 23 or 26 years. Yep. And

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so that was really fun to watch, man. That was

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a good series. Good games. Man, it's such a fun

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tournament. It really is. I'm a Longhorn fan,

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right? I'd like that tournament. I like the girls'

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softball tournament. It is intense. Those girls

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play hard. It is fun to watch. Didn't we have

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to double dip twice? We had to, yes. We double

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dipped Tennessee. We had to beat Tennessee twice.

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In the Super Regionals, that's a three -game

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series. When you get to the Super Regionals,

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it's basically the Sweet 16. It's a three -game

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series. We lost our first game to Arizona State.

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We had to beat them twice in a row, right? Then

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we go into the… The final eight, which is what

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they call the World Series. We lost our – it

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goes into a double elimination round robin, basically.

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We lost our first game, which means now we're

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in the loser's bracket, which means we have to

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win out. We can't lose another game. If we lose

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a game, we're out. We get to Tennessee in the

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final four, and we have to beat them twice and

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beat them twice. Tennessee was – The team that

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beat us in the first round, in the first part

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of that tournament. And Tech had to double dip

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Alabama. And they double dipped them for us to

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get that rematch. It was so unlikely that that

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was going to be a rematch that, like, if you

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put odds on bets toward it, you would have made

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a ton of money. Yeah, but here's the other thing

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about that is we didn't, like, we come out and

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it was, we put our foot on their throat to start.

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Right from the jump street, yes. Both games.

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I mean, well, the second game, I was really worried

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about game two. I was like – Najri Kennedy had

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us for a while. If that girl at shortstop had

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not made that bad throw to third base, we don't

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win that game. Yeah. Because that scored two

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runs. It did. It scored two right there because

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she threw it away. Yeah, and then they started

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– they're on the defense at that point. Like,

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oh – And Tegan Kavon, y 'all better put some

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respect on her name. Everybody talks about all

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these other pitchers, the best pitcher in the

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country. Tegan Kavon is nails, man. When she

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come in, I was like, this game's over. Did you

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see the look? You could see the look in their

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eyes, man. When she came in, I was like, yep.

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We got this. That's game. And then she goes out

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there three up, three down. Like, closes it.

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I was like, oh, yeah, we're good. In the World

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Series, which is the final eight, okay, the whole

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tournament you think that's called the World

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Series, it's the NCAA tournament until you get

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to the final eight. Then it's called the World

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Series. Her statistics in the World Series are

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unmatched, dude. She has a sub -1 ERA. She's

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undefeated. I don't think she's ever lost a game.

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In the World Series. I think she's 9 -0. Is she

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a junior? She's a junior. She'll be back next

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year. Najari is a senior. She's gone. Yeah, she's

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going to the AUSL, the Athletes Unlimited Softball

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League. It's a women's softball league, professional.

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Yeah. I did not know that there was such a thing.

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Yeah, it starts tomorrow. Yeah. That's crazy.

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Cause I was, you know, like she's, she, her NIL

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deal is like a million dollars a year. And so

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that was my thing and a shame on me for even

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saying this. And now I'm, but I'm going to admit

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it and I'm going to talk about it now because

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I've, I've, I'm ashamed of myself, but I was

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like, they set that poor girl up for failure

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because they're paying her a million dollars

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a year. And then what's after this, I really

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hope that she did something with a degree or

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something. You know what I mean? Now, it's going

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to be a lot like the WNBA. It's in its early

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stages. It's subsidized by the MLB or something.

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The MLB is backing it. There is a couple of new

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investors that just came on. The Milwaukee Brewers

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ownership just came on. There's only six teams,

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okay, so it's very small yet. So the money is

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not going to be there right now. No, but she'll

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probably make a better living than me and you.

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She's going to be fine. She's going to be fine.

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And guess what? She's playing for the Texas team.

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Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, but my favorite

00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:25.779
player, which was Reese Atwood. Reese Atwood?

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Reese Atwood, the catcher for Texas, is playing

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for the Carolina team. So, you know, it would

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have been nice if she could have got picked up

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by the Texas team. You know, everybody talked

00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:39.039
about – I hate that the first 15 minutes of this

00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:42.480
show is going to be sports, but it's going to

00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:45.360
be longer than that. But everybody talked about

00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:50.960
that run that OU made. Texas is making them.

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We're starting to make that run, too. Now, they

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had a senior class. They had like eight years

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of straight, not eight years straight national

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championships, but they had like a crazy amount

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of. They won four straight national championships.

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Yeah, but they had like eight appearances. In

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the final. Yeah. I don't know how many years

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in a row they were there, but it was a lot. Four

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straight national champions. Patty Gasso is the

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head coach of that team. They had a freshman

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class that when they were seniors had never not

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won the championship. You know what I'm saying?

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They left that school having never known not

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being a champion. That's unreal. It doesn't happen

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very often. Texas' team right now is four of

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the last five years have been in the championship

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round. Right? That's... We lost one year to OU,

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too. Okay, twice. We lost twice. And then we

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beat Tech twice. Yeah. Yeah, we lost to OU twice.

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Baseball, the D1 baseball is different from the

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D1 football. It's so different. There's so many

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more teams. Yeah, and it really doesn't matter

00:16:07.539 --> 00:16:10.259
what conference you're in at that point. No,

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but there's eight teams right now. It's the World

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Series now for men's baseball. Texas is still

00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:19.960
there, right? Five of the eight teams are SEC

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teams. Ooh. Yeah. Texas being one. They got to

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play Georgia first in the final. Georgia won

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last night. Yeah. Against Mississippi State,

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another SEC team. Their two games were like.

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There was like 21 home runs in two games between

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those two teams, man. It was crazy. It was crazy.

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But Texas is now making their 39th appearance

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in the Final Eight in baseball. It's the all

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-time record. Been the all -time record. Every

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time we go back, it's a new all -time record.

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You know what I mean? In men's baseball, there's

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really three flagship programs. It's USC, it's

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Texas, and it's LSU. Those are the three main.

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Top programs of all time. Yeah, it's like the

00:17:08.109 --> 00:17:13.990
Georgia, the Alabama of football. Yeah. So you

00:17:13.990 --> 00:17:16.410
know how back in the day with football it was

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USC, Notre Dame, you know what I mean? Yeah.

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And now they're never there hardly. Occasionally

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Notre Dame shows up, USC. USC ever, like once

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in a blue moon. Yeah. But before it was like

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always. Everybody called USC, like I remember

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everybody like. Not everybody. I remember there

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was a couple people that I would hang around

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with. They were like, yeah, USC, freaking football

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factory. Like talking about them printing NFL

00:17:42.420 --> 00:17:46.079
players because it seemed like every year, damn

00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:48.839
near every one of their seniors is going to the

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NFL. Yeah. So it is definitely different at different

00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.720
sports, right? So teams that qualify to be Division

00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:59.579
I in football don't qualify to be Division or.

00:18:00.269 --> 00:18:02.309
Division I in baseball don't qualify to be Division

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I in football, right? So there's like 386 baseball

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teams that are D1. Same thing with basketball.

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That's why you have St. John's. Little tiny,

00:18:12.190 --> 00:18:15.950
tiny schools, man, that are D1 in that sport,

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but they don't even have a football program.

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You know what I mean? They can't even qualify

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to be D1. And how they decide what's D1, D2 is

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based off of enrollees, right? And so in basketball,

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baseball, and stuff like that, you don't have

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to have as many enrollees to qualify to be D1.

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Yeah. That's how that works, really. I didn't

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know that. Yeah. Looks I always wondered. I was

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like, I've never heard of St. John's having a

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football team. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think they

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have a football team. If they do, it's not a

00:18:51.269 --> 00:18:54.609
D1 squad. Or Gonzaga. There's no football team

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at Gonzaga. Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean?

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So we're in Canyon, right? So WT, right? You

00:19:00.630 --> 00:19:03.490
wonder why don't they play D1 schools occasionally

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because there's some low -end D2 or high -end

00:19:06.369 --> 00:19:09.430
D2 schools that play D1 schools. Like Appalachian

00:19:09.430 --> 00:19:11.849
State beat Michigan years ago. That was a long

00:19:11.849 --> 00:19:13.589
time ago. Yeah, and then there was not too long

00:19:13.589 --> 00:19:19.289
ago Alabama. Yeah. They had some scrubs. They

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paid some scrub school to come play them, and

00:19:21.549 --> 00:19:23.890
they lost. Yeah. It happens occasionally, right?

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So you wonder about that stuff. Do you know that

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Texas WT played USC at one time? Do you know

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that Mercury Morris, the running back, one of

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the running backs on the undefeated Miami Dolphins

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played at WT? Yeah. So back in that time, in

00:19:41.250 --> 00:19:43.509
the 60s and 70s, WT was a different program.

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You know what I mean? It was West Texas State

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University. They played in the Rose Bowl, at

00:19:47.730 --> 00:19:49.829
the Rose Bowl, not in the Rose Bowl, at the Rose

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Bowl against USC. Oh, nice. I've seen a picture

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of the poster. It's pretty cool. Mercury and

00:19:57.529 --> 00:19:59.109
Morris was their running back at the time. Like,

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you know what I mean? So it was different. You

00:20:00.910 --> 00:20:02.910
know what I mean? It's just. It would be cool

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to see. Yeah. WT like. Like, why wouldn't you

00:20:07.170 --> 00:20:10.210
see WT play tech in one of those early scrub

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games? You know what I mean? They're right there.

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Yeah. You know? They're so close. Yeah, they're

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so close to each other. 90 minutes from each

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other, man. You know what I mean? Like, why not?

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I mean, dude, you know, or like TCU or. I mean,

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I don't think you put them in their plate. Obviously,

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WT's going there. Yeah, I don't see you put them

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at Texas. I don't see you put them at OU. But

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I can see like TCU, Tech. SMU. SMU. Yeah, SMU

00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:41.980
would be a great matchup. Yeah. I mean, UT El

00:20:41.980 --> 00:20:47.420
Paso, UTSA. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Or what's the

00:20:47.420 --> 00:20:51.680
one, North Texas? North Texas Mean Green. Yeah,

00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:54.640
yeah. That would be, that'd be. That's where

00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:56.799
Mean Joe Green came from. Really? That's why

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he's called Mean Joe Green. Mean Green. Yeah,

00:21:00.019 --> 00:21:03.539
the Mean Green Eagles. Yeah, 100%. And you know

00:21:03.539 --> 00:21:06.559
why I know all this crap? Being with my dad.

00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:09.380
Because he's all about Texas high school football,

00:21:09.539 --> 00:21:11.299
Texas football. He's been that way forever. That's

00:21:11.299 --> 00:21:16.289
crazy that WT played USC. They did. Sure did.

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We could look it up. No, I'm thinking Byron Bam

00:21:22.049 --> 00:21:27.829
Morris. Bam Morris played at Tech. Back then

00:21:27.829 --> 00:21:30.789
it was West Texas State University. It wasn't

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West Texas A &M. It became West Texas A &M much,

00:21:35.690 --> 00:21:38.710
much later. Now they're affiliated with an A

00:21:38.710 --> 00:21:41.609
&M school. So they are technically an A &M school.

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The dean of A &M has some pullover. Where am

00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:54.660
I at? Where's my internet? Come on, man. It's

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right there. This is not that. I don't know where

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my screen went. Oh. I just burped in the mic,

00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:05.539
too. I'm sorry. We're going to make this episode

00:22:05.539 --> 00:22:10.319
sports. Dude, I know. It's all good, dude. You

00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:15.269
know what? We haven't done that in forever. Forever.

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Forever. Let's see here. Not that one. Texas

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State. There's Mark Aaron Moyers about Mark Aaron

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Moyers. No, it was West Texas. I'm telling you.

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Not Texas State Bobcats, West Texas. It used

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to be called WTSU. Let's call it A &M. They probably

00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:56.259
just changed it. Don't let you. Don't let you

00:22:56.259 --> 00:22:58.680
use that West Texas State University anymore.

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There you go. Was it USC? Maybe it was not USC.

00:23:03.700 --> 00:23:06.720
Maybe it was Notre Dame. It was a big -time school,

00:23:06.779 --> 00:23:10.829
and I was like, what? Just type in what's the

00:23:10.829 --> 00:23:15.890
highest profile team that WT's played. Okay.

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It's funny because we call it WT and everybody

00:23:19.109 --> 00:23:25.109
else is like WT A &M or WT SU. As soon as you

00:23:25.109 --> 00:23:27.329
say WT around these parts, everybody already

00:23:27.329 --> 00:23:33.890
automatically knows. Let's add the West Texas

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State. Buffaloes. Okay. 67. Look at that. Hold

00:23:40.970 --> 00:23:43.869
up. In 67, Markier Morris finished second in

00:23:43.869 --> 00:23:48.029
the nation to OJ Simpson, who was the USC Hotspot

00:23:48.029 --> 00:23:54.750
Trophy winner. What? What the hell? Bro, that's...

00:23:54.750 --> 00:23:59.170
Okay, so what's crazy about that is that he played

00:23:59.170 --> 00:24:05.829
for USC. Yeah, he did, too. Yes. He broke several

00:24:05.829 --> 00:24:07.869
collegiate inclusion rushing yards in a single

00:24:07.869 --> 00:24:11.210
game. 340 rushing yards. Montana State. Montana

00:24:11.210 --> 00:24:15.730
State. Oh, that's crazy. I'm going to just look

00:24:15.730 --> 00:24:19.309
at his stats just because it'll show you game

00:24:19.309 --> 00:24:24.269
by game. Let's see. Dude, that is wild, bro.

00:24:24.849 --> 00:24:33.460
Wild. That is funny, dude. Second behind O .J.

00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.619
Simpson. You know, all you think about when you

00:24:37.619 --> 00:24:40.279
think about, oh, they were independent back then.

00:24:40.420 --> 00:24:43.920
Oh, that's weird. Okay, I didn't realize that.

00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:47.079
They weren't affiliated with a conference then.

00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:49.740
Okay, so hold on. First and foremost. You're

00:24:49.740 --> 00:24:53.019
good. That dude was drafted in the third round

00:24:53.019 --> 00:24:56.660
by the Dolphins. And they ended up building.

00:24:56.980 --> 00:25:01.720
That was Larry Zonka, Jim Kick, and. And Marjorie

00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:05.940
Morris in that backfield. And Bob Greasy was

00:25:05.940 --> 00:25:08.359
their quarterback, dude. Hey, you know, I used

00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:13.839
to have a freaking Miami Dolphins hat autographed

00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:19.759
by Larry Zonka. Really? Yes. So in the process

00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:23.319
of all the things that happened in me being evicted

00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:30.710
from my house, it was lost. But it wasn't like,

00:25:30.849 --> 00:25:34.529
it wasn't, it was like a Miami car dealership

00:25:34.529 --> 00:25:36.769
thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was an autograph

00:25:36.769 --> 00:25:39.690
on the bill. And it was faded. It was old. But

00:25:39.690 --> 00:25:43.470
my mom gave it to me. And I had that. That's

00:25:43.470 --> 00:25:47.349
cool. That's real cool. I'm having a hard time

00:25:47.349 --> 00:25:52.230
finding their schedule. Let's see. West Texas.

00:25:52.670 --> 00:25:55.589
See, up here in the thing, it says West Texas

00:25:55.589 --> 00:26:03.519
A &M. Buffaloes. Yeah. Let's see. Westies? Westies.

00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:14.420
Westies. 66. Yeah. I was going to go 66 through

00:26:14.420 --> 00:26:23.000
68. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. All right. What do they

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.740
call that? The Buffalo Bull? The Buffalo Bowl.

00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:31.500
What? Yeah, dude. The Buffalo Bowl. Wow. Notre

00:26:31.500 --> 00:26:40.799
Dame. Georgia Tech. Miami. Miami. What? Oh, those

00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:42.759
are standings. Those are standings. Okay, okay,

00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:46.619
okay. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm like, dude, they played

00:26:46.619 --> 00:26:50.619
a bunch of like. Western Michigan. And that was

00:26:50.619 --> 00:26:59.099
in 1966. Okay. Go further. Scroll down. Did you

00:26:59.099 --> 00:27:02.740
run out of real estate? Oh, here you go. 67.

00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.200
Junior Rolls Bowl champion. Okay. Notre Dame.

00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:11.480
Oh, no. I'm getting excited. I'm sorry. I just

00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:14.240
want to see it. I want to know. UT Arlington

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:19.599
was number four? What the fork, dude? Valley

00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:24.119
State. At the Rose Bowl. At the Rose Bowl. That

00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:27.279
is the Rose Bowl. Okay, so they're calling it

00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.779
the Junior Rose Bowl. Maybe my facts are wrong.

00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.440
I want to know, bro. But, dude, look at this.

00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:39.559
Look, they're the third best record in the country

00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:46.359
in 1968. What the hell? Too bad we don't have

00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:51.099
that anymore. I mean, like, look at that. Apparently,

00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.299
my facts were wrong. They played at the Rose

00:27:53.299 --> 00:27:56.240
Bowl. They didn't play the Rose Bowl or play

00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.480
anybody. And then we're, like, six and four.

00:27:58.779 --> 00:28:01.920
Six and four. But, like, some of these schools,

00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.559
too, you look at them, like San Diego State.

00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.000
It's just crazy because it's Buffalo Bowl, Canyon,

00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:09.809
Texas. Yeah. That's literally. That's Kimbrough

00:28:09.809 --> 00:28:13.049
Stadium, bro. Two minutes from here. Yeah, you

00:28:13.049 --> 00:28:15.690
just go two minutes south, bro, and it's right

00:28:15.690 --> 00:28:18.150
there. Yeah, you know, people don't realize that

00:28:18.150 --> 00:28:21.650
there's been a lot of really great sports in

00:28:21.650 --> 00:28:27.109
our area. You know who Maurice Cheeks is? No.

00:28:28.029 --> 00:28:31.190
Ziggy Hood. Ziggy Hood played a PD. Yeah, and

00:28:31.190 --> 00:28:34.210
then William Thomas played for the Eagles. Yeah.

00:28:34.329 --> 00:28:37.519
He was a PD kid. Yeah, Mo Cheeks. Mo Cheeks played

00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.740
at WT in basketball. He's an NBA – I don't know

00:28:40.740 --> 00:28:42.420
if he's a Hall of Famer as an NBA player, but

00:28:42.420 --> 00:28:45.480
he's a coach too for the 76ers for years, man.

00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:50.559
You go to the First United Bank Center, there's

00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:52.740
a statue of Mo Cheeks there when you walk into

00:28:52.740 --> 00:28:56.660
the main door. You know what I mean? That's wild.

00:28:56.779 --> 00:28:59.099
It's wild, man. Small world, you don't realize

00:28:59.099 --> 00:29:02.559
it. Also, you may not be familiar, but Jesse

00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.759
Honeycutt, do you remember him? He was a running

00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.559
back for Tech, I believe. So he played, huh?

00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:13.660
Name sounds familiar. So he played for, he played

00:29:13.660 --> 00:29:19.700
for Tech. No, he played for, oh, golly. It's,

00:29:19.700 --> 00:29:23.920
it was, they were our rivals when I played for

00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:29.779
Horseman. He played for Horseman. Okay. And that

00:29:29.779 --> 00:29:33.039
dude was a monster. Yeah. Think about Zach Thomas

00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.660
played at Pampa. Yeah. And White Deer. Yeah.

00:29:35.930 --> 00:29:37.890
You know what I mean? Went to Tech. Went to Tech.

00:29:37.950 --> 00:29:39.930
Yeah, he's an NFL Hall of Famer. You know what

00:29:39.930 --> 00:29:42.130
I mean? Like, we don't think about that stuff.

00:29:42.309 --> 00:29:45.349
Or in the moment, you don't realize it. Yeah,

00:29:45.430 --> 00:29:48.769
it's crazy. Yeah. There's a kid that played baseball

00:29:48.769 --> 00:29:51.589
at Randall, Chance Mock. He set the single -season

00:29:51.589 --> 00:29:53.369
home run record in the panhandle. You know what

00:29:53.369 --> 00:29:56.269
I mean? Yeah. I was out of high school already.

00:29:56.450 --> 00:29:57.950
You know what I mean? I was, too. I remember

00:29:57.950 --> 00:30:01.960
that. Yeah, it was a big deal. Fat deal. Yeah,

00:30:02.019 --> 00:30:04.339
with the Astros. Yeah. And he never developed

00:30:04.339 --> 00:30:06.779
into the next thing, but, you know. He still

00:30:06.779 --> 00:30:09.920
made his money. Good for him. He made some money

00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.059
out of the deal, you know what I mean? But, yeah,

00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.799
you know, unusual that we start our show this

00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:17.799
way today, but whatever, you know what I mean?

00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:21.400
Like, I think it's kind of one of those things

00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:27.640
that it points to your roots. Yeah. You know?

00:30:30.730 --> 00:30:34.589
I had all intentions of, like, ambushing you

00:30:34.589 --> 00:30:38.069
with some sports stuff. I mean, when I came out

00:30:38.069 --> 00:30:40.410
here, I was like, yeah, I got to know because

00:30:40.410 --> 00:30:43.950
we haven't talked since the hook them when we

00:30:43.950 --> 00:30:47.130
won. Yeah. And we haven't, like, really got together

00:30:47.130 --> 00:30:50.029
on anything basketball in a while. So it was

00:30:50.029 --> 00:30:51.970
just like one of them, I'm going to save that

00:30:51.970 --> 00:30:55.710
for this. Well, but you get me going. Yeah. And

00:30:55.710 --> 00:30:58.829
now we're 32 minutes in. Next thing you know,

00:30:58.849 --> 00:31:01.369
it's a sports show. Yeah. But it's okay. I mean,

00:31:01.410 --> 00:31:05.210
okay, so here's the thing. Here's something that

00:31:05.210 --> 00:31:07.410
you have to really consider in all this is that

00:31:07.410 --> 00:31:12.390
it's not just we, you know, as followers and

00:31:12.390 --> 00:31:16.529
as believers and as, you know, people that want

00:31:16.529 --> 00:31:18.750
to do the best they can for themselves through

00:31:18.750 --> 00:31:21.769
their walk with Jesus, there are things that

00:31:21.769 --> 00:31:24.029
interest you. Sports are something that me and

00:31:24.029 --> 00:31:27.619
you have in common. Yeah, 100%. That we. we like

00:31:27.619 --> 00:31:29.799
to talk about. So it's not like, Oh man, we're

00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.140
taking this. We're turning this Christian podcast

00:31:33.140 --> 00:31:36.240
into a sports podcast. No, we're not doing that.

00:31:36.259 --> 00:31:40.240
It's just like, we're two random dudes that are

00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.519
just hanging out and we're. We're trying to figure

00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:44.660
out life. And so that's part of it. That's part

00:31:44.660 --> 00:31:47.599
of it. This is dude talk. That's it, 100%. You

00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.160
know what I mean? We were also talking about

00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.259
the tournament that's coming here Saturday. Yeah,

00:31:51.259 --> 00:31:54.180
the Corn Fairy Tour. That's a big deal, man.

00:31:54.299 --> 00:31:55.839
That's a big deal. There's local people that

00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.099
are going to be playing in that tournament trying

00:31:57.099 --> 00:31:58.539
to potentially earn. Don't you wish you were

00:31:58.539 --> 00:32:01.839
good enough to? Dude, I wish I was good enough,

00:32:01.859 --> 00:32:03.480
but I can't even hit a ball straight to save

00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:06.480
my life. I'd go out there and shoot a 112. What

00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:11.250
are you doing here? Taking my shooting my shot,

00:32:11.309 --> 00:32:16.670
bro. My name. Yes. My name is. Yeah, I'm shooting

00:32:16.670 --> 00:32:20.569
my shot, bro. You know, but that kind of thing

00:32:20.569 --> 00:32:24.950
to to me. Look, man. Chase your dream. Who cares?

00:32:25.690 --> 00:32:27.430
Who cares what people think? Who cares about

00:32:27.430 --> 00:32:29.109
the judgment? I mean, at the end of the day,

00:32:29.109 --> 00:32:32.990
bro, you got to be happy. So when you talk. So

00:32:32.990 --> 00:32:36.730
this has really been heavy on my mind a lot.

00:32:36.809 --> 00:32:40.059
Like. intensely here the last few weeks when

00:32:40.059 --> 00:32:43.380
you talk about chase your dream yeah me and you

00:32:43.380 --> 00:32:45.500
had a really serious conversation before we started

00:32:45.500 --> 00:32:48.420
the show yeah and you know me and you have had

00:32:48.420 --> 00:32:53.039
this dream of this working yeah taken off and

00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:58.990
all that stuff and it's it has been a, and I,

00:32:59.029 --> 00:33:00.789
and I talked to you and I told you like, I feel

00:33:00.789 --> 00:33:03.210
like, you know, like I'm, I'm blessed beyond

00:33:03.210 --> 00:33:05.970
belief right now. And not just like, it's not

00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:09.289
money. It's just circumstances. Yeah. Like circumstances

00:33:09.289 --> 00:33:13.670
just happen to work out. You know, it's I, cause

00:33:13.670 --> 00:33:21.210
I'm, I'm that dude that nothing ever worked out

00:33:21.210 --> 00:33:24.970
for me before. Okay. Yeah. When I start this,

00:33:25.069 --> 00:33:28.869
I start really, you know, I, I can't say nothing

00:33:28.869 --> 00:33:31.230
ever worked out for me before, but things usually

00:33:31.230 --> 00:33:36.349
didn't. Right. And over the last eight, nine

00:33:36.349 --> 00:33:38.990
years, things have started to work out for me.

00:33:39.049 --> 00:33:43.369
And I was flirting with being like, not flirting

00:33:43.369 --> 00:33:45.829
with, but you know, I was, I would, I was the

00:33:45.829 --> 00:33:50.549
CEO Christian for a while, you know, Christmas

00:33:50.549 --> 00:33:53.250
Easter occasionally. Yeah. I would go to church

00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:56.500
and do those kinds of things. And then the major

00:33:56.500 --> 00:33:59.839
turnaround was the invite to Bible study. And

00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:01.759
then it was like, hey, man, I got to make this

00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.859
a normal thing. We really kicked it in. I really

00:34:05.859 --> 00:34:07.440
started hounding her, you know, because she used

00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:11.900
to hound me. And I was like, meh. But then I

00:34:11.900 --> 00:34:13.659
started hounding her. And once I started hounding

00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:15.840
her, we really started changing our life. We

00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.579
really started kind of putting things into perspective.

00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.860
We started making it a point to make sure we

00:34:20.860 --> 00:34:23.880
made it to church. We made it to things that

00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:30.130
were, uh not not things events that were important

00:34:30.130 --> 00:34:32.750
you know like the bible studies the all that

00:34:32.750 --> 00:34:34.329
stuff and then we started this and me and you

00:34:34.329 --> 00:34:36.070
had this dream that this was going to be the

00:34:36.070 --> 00:34:40.789
thing that took us took off and through all that

00:34:40.789 --> 00:34:44.730
i have been extremely blessed and like i said

00:34:44.730 --> 00:34:47.489
not money i'm talking circumstances i'm talking

00:34:47.489 --> 00:34:50.110
like when things aren't going well it's just

00:34:50.110 --> 00:34:54.150
out of the blue something something happens and

00:34:54.150 --> 00:34:57.320
that that thing is totally erased. You know,

00:34:57.380 --> 00:35:01.940
like, you know the story about the work truck.

00:35:02.099 --> 00:35:04.679
You know, I was self -employed, and every time

00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:06.400
I turned around, that thing was in the shop,

00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.820
and it's $3 ,200. Yep, I remember. When we first

00:35:09.820 --> 00:35:11.880
started doing this, yeah. And then I get rid

00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:15.579
of it, and I'm struggling. I'm not self -employed

00:35:15.579 --> 00:35:19.539
anymore. I have, like, a terrible back injury

00:35:19.539 --> 00:35:21.960
that I'm... Trying to deal with from being self

00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:26.780
-employed. I'm employed by an employer now. I

00:35:26.780 --> 00:35:31.239
get a letter in the mail stating that if you

00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.019
have proof of your repairs, we'll reimburse you.

00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.360
That was one of those things. I'm struggling

00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:40.019
to make ends meet because I don't know how to

00:35:40.019 --> 00:35:44.739
live off this kind of money. This is a big change.

00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:50.619
And that comes in. It's like, oh. lost my ass

00:35:50.619 --> 00:35:53.099
on that truck yeah that comes in it's like oh

00:35:53.099 --> 00:35:56.360
man now we're now we're getting somewhere with

00:35:56.360 --> 00:36:00.380
this and then it was like every every every time

00:36:00.380 --> 00:36:03.000
i turned around it i didn't like win the lottery

00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.380
but every time i turned around the things that

00:36:06.380 --> 00:36:10.380
were hurting me you know i i have now i have

00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:13.860
health insurance yeah so this this back issue

00:36:13.860 --> 00:36:17.329
that's been killing me You know, like I'm laying

00:36:17.329 --> 00:36:19.389
in the ground, rolling around, rolling my spine

00:36:19.389 --> 00:36:22.050
on a baseball, trying to get myself lined out

00:36:22.050 --> 00:36:25.429
in tears the whole time, by the way. Yeah. Now

00:36:25.429 --> 00:36:27.809
I have health insurance and I get to get this

00:36:27.809 --> 00:36:30.530
fixed. And it's like, okay, there's step one,

00:36:30.570 --> 00:36:32.570
you know, like everything is just like working

00:36:32.570 --> 00:36:35.329
out. And it all started when I started doing

00:36:35.329 --> 00:36:40.289
all this stuff. So this decision that I was in,

00:36:40.349 --> 00:36:42.389
in the process, like I'm trying to figure out,

00:36:42.429 --> 00:36:45.630
I'm like, man, I feel like this is an issue.

00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:50.159
I don't feel good about stepping back from here.

00:36:50.219 --> 00:36:52.739
I'm stepping back from here for just a brief

00:36:52.739 --> 00:36:57.800
momentary. I don't feel good about it, but it's

00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.000
kind of necessary for me to get my mind right.

00:37:01.219 --> 00:37:05.320
Things at work are getting really crazy. But

00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.380
when I was talking to my wife about it, I told

00:37:08.380 --> 00:37:10.039
her, I said, I feel like the reason that we are

00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.099
so blessed is because, not because we're... chosen

00:37:14.099 --> 00:37:20.079
or whatever it's like we go out like she does

00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:24.679
amazing things i mean she's my terry she's yeah

00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.340
she's my terry to you yeah 100 i can go in there

00:37:28.340 --> 00:37:32.659
i could go in there right now and damn this damn

00:37:32.659 --> 00:37:35.300
that damn all this she'll be like what do you

00:37:35.300 --> 00:37:38.280
need baby um damn all that she's right there

00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:40.500
with me she doesn't care Or I could go in there

00:37:40.500 --> 00:37:42.659
and this is where the pressure is on me. I can

00:37:42.659 --> 00:37:45.340
go in there and I can be like, I really should

00:37:45.340 --> 00:37:47.739
do a better job of being a Christ follower. She'll

00:37:47.739 --> 00:37:49.519
be like, well, what do you need from me? How

00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.960
can I help you? Yeah. And she doesn't, she does

00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.199
not judge me at all. And I don't know how, cause

00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:59.699
I would judge this shit out of me. You know what

00:37:59.699 --> 00:38:01.480
I mean? If I was married to me, I would be like,

00:38:01.539 --> 00:38:03.719
dude, I don't want to be married to you no more.

00:38:05.820 --> 00:38:08.619
Yeah. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. I mean,

00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:14.340
I get it. The part about that is you look back

00:38:14.340 --> 00:38:16.679
at, I look back and I think about everything

00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:19.179
that's, like how life has changed over the last,

00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:23.920
it's been about three years. Because one day

00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.480
you just said, hey, let's do a podcast. And I'm

00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:28.300
like, sign me up. Why are we doing this? Yeah,

00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.599
yeah. So it's been about three years, right?

00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:35.579
Close, yeah. Over those three years, things have

00:38:35.579 --> 00:38:38.199
dramatically changed for me. Yeah, and so you

00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:39.800
have a little bit of an apprehension about –

00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.739
Yeah, and I was like, man, I don't want to lose

00:38:42.739 --> 00:38:45.659
that. And I'm not saying that I'm favored or

00:38:45.659 --> 00:38:48.679
any of that. I just feel like, you know, like

00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:53.440
when you – Let me try to give you some encouragement,

00:38:53.539 --> 00:38:56.420
brother, because it's not going to be the same.

00:38:56.659 --> 00:38:58.659
It doesn't feel the same without you in this

00:38:58.659 --> 00:39:00.519
room, right? Like it's not the same, right? Like

00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.119
we've talked about that a hundred times. Every

00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.679
time we weren't able to make it happen or whatever.

00:39:05.710 --> 00:39:08.710
But that doesn't mean that it's not still the

00:39:08.710 --> 00:39:12.750
thing. You know what I mean? And look. Well,

00:39:12.809 --> 00:39:15.550
like you said, you still have every intention

00:39:15.550 --> 00:39:20.150
of reaching out. Why would that stop? Well, and

00:39:20.150 --> 00:39:21.969
that was another part of it, too. It's like,

00:39:22.010 --> 00:39:28.050
man, I felt terrible. Like, I'm sitting there.

00:39:28.070 --> 00:39:32.929
I'm like, man, I got to do this for this, number

00:39:32.929 --> 00:39:38.349
one. Is to get some clarity and regroup. I got

00:39:38.349 --> 00:39:45.050
so much going on that I just need to gather my

00:39:45.050 --> 00:39:47.469
wits. And I was like, man, that's the one time

00:39:47.469 --> 00:39:51.949
that me and you sit down and we talk and we're

00:39:51.949 --> 00:39:57.190
honest with each other. And it's like, I felt

00:39:57.190 --> 00:40:03.530
like shit because for the last five weeks. I've

00:40:03.530 --> 00:40:06.230
been struggling with this. And that's why I come

00:40:06.230 --> 00:40:07.750
in. I sat down. I was like, man, look, I'm going

00:40:07.750 --> 00:40:09.329
to rip the bandaid off. I got to get this off

00:40:09.329 --> 00:40:10.769
my chest because I didn't know how to do it any

00:40:10.769 --> 00:40:12.969
other way. I would rather you just be straight

00:40:12.969 --> 00:40:15.269
with me. You know what I mean? But I sat down.

00:40:15.269 --> 00:40:16.789
I was like, man, I got to get this. I got to

00:40:16.789 --> 00:40:19.469
get it out. You know, because even coming in

00:40:19.469 --> 00:40:21.250
here, I was like, man, how am I going to do this?

00:40:21.289 --> 00:40:24.710
And I was like, man, whatever. At the end of

00:40:24.710 --> 00:40:28.050
the day, man, or if we just kind of break all

00:40:28.050 --> 00:40:32.280
of that down. You're not being favored because

00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:34.360
of your actions here. That has nothing to do

00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:35.820
with it. You're favored because you're blessed

00:40:35.820 --> 00:40:37.659
and highly favored and deeply loved into discussion.

00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.480
What we're trying to build up here are treasures

00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:42.599
in heaven, not treasures on earth, right? And

00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.639
so like every single person who chooses to take

00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.820
a chance on us or take a chance on this podcast,

00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:51.239
it gives us an opportunity to impact somebody.

00:40:51.769 --> 00:40:54.329
For the glory of God, for the kingdom of heaven,

00:40:54.389 --> 00:40:56.409
not for the kingdom of earth. You know what I'm

00:40:56.409 --> 00:40:58.389
saying? That's the point. But that was the whole

00:40:58.389 --> 00:41:01.869
issue I struggled with because me and you sat

00:41:01.869 --> 00:41:04.550
down and we got BSW goals right there. Yeah,

00:41:04.590 --> 00:41:08.269
you stare at it all the time. BSW goals right

00:41:08.269 --> 00:41:12.769
there. Yeah. Don't drop the camera. We have that,

00:41:12.869 --> 00:41:14.550
and we have that for a reason. It was keep God

00:41:14.550 --> 00:41:17.130
first, stay consistent. Those were some of the

00:41:17.130 --> 00:41:20.869
things that we talked about. The more that the

00:41:20.869 --> 00:41:24.889
pressure has come on with me, the less consistent

00:41:24.889 --> 00:41:28.489
I've been. The least attention that I've given

00:41:28.489 --> 00:41:30.510
to anything in my life has been this, and then

00:41:30.510 --> 00:41:34.909
it's made me feel bad because I'm dead serious.

00:41:35.250 --> 00:41:37.489
Like I said, not money. I'm talking about blessing.

00:41:38.269 --> 00:41:43.110
Yes, I did lose my uncle here recently, but that

00:41:43.110 --> 00:41:46.369
was ultimately, I feel like, a blessing because

00:41:46.369 --> 00:41:50.789
he was suffering. And it was like one of those

00:41:50.789 --> 00:41:53.650
things that, and my mom, she talked to me about,

00:41:53.670 --> 00:41:57.349
she had a dream. So I do feel like he is with

00:41:57.349 --> 00:42:00.489
God. Like he, he's walked, he's with God. Yeah.

00:42:00.989 --> 00:42:05.070
You know, we, we all, I really hate to put this

00:42:05.070 --> 00:42:06.710
out there, but I feel like it's very important.

00:42:06.969 --> 00:42:10.050
And I may get, I may catch some major heat for

00:42:10.050 --> 00:42:12.210
this from my family members and stuff, but it

00:42:12.210 --> 00:42:16.519
is what it is. He, he was not a believer. And

00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:18.940
I can't tell you how many times that I prayed

00:42:18.940 --> 00:42:25.579
in there at dinner for Jesus to present himself

00:42:25.579 --> 00:42:28.119
to him, for God to present himself to him. For

00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:32.320
him to have that experience where he would understand

00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.719
this is what it's going to take. And my mom would

00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.880
tell him, I pray for you every day. And he would

00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:42.260
make comments like, well, it ain't working. You

00:42:42.260 --> 00:42:50.679
know, that kind of stuff. And my mom. My mom

00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:59.219
had a dream and she's that God is asking, telling

00:42:59.219 --> 00:43:02.159
her, why are you trying to be a savior? I'm his

00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.179
savior. So from that point on, it was like, okay,

00:43:06.260 --> 00:43:10.739
I really am. I'm cool with it now. I feel like,

00:43:10.739 --> 00:43:13.760
I feel like that was, you know, my, my mom is

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:19.340
there's one person in this entire world that

00:43:19.340 --> 00:43:25.460
i look at and undoubtedly i know that she is

00:43:25.460 --> 00:43:30.340
with christ at all time now i look at a bunch

00:43:30.340 --> 00:43:32.139
of people and know that but if i had to pick

00:43:32.139 --> 00:43:34.780
the top one that's one like i look at my mom

00:43:34.780 --> 00:43:38.559
i know that you this is you yeah i got you so

00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.699
when you tell me that you have this dream i'm

00:43:41.699 --> 00:43:48.559
good about it like i feel good yeah All that,

00:43:48.579 --> 00:43:53.800
yeah, that part sucked. But everything else in

00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:59.420
my life has been great. I'm really making a turnaround

00:43:59.420 --> 00:44:03.440
with, you know, one of my daughters, my granddaughter.

00:44:04.900 --> 00:44:08.800
That whole situation, that's an amazing feeling

00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.559
when they're out here and, you know, you get

00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:16.179
to be grandpa. Now I'm Pawpaw. G -Paw was my

00:44:16.179 --> 00:44:18.619
name. Now I'm Pawpaw. You knew whatever she responded

00:44:18.619 --> 00:44:21.280
to. Yeah, it's just whatever, but it doesn't

00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:31.519
matter. You know, the situations with, like,

00:44:32.340 --> 00:44:36.059
look, I know it's stressful for work to lean

00:44:36.059 --> 00:44:38.099
on you and stuff like that, but it's also a blessing,

00:44:38.179 --> 00:44:40.639
too, because it means that you're good enough

00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.559
that they are going to lean on you. You're not

00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:49.800
going to crumble. There's a couple other things

00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:56.780
that, you know, like my marriage. We went through

00:44:56.780 --> 00:45:00.800
a really rough patch when we first got this house.

00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.780
Very rough patch. It was rough. And since then,

00:45:06.139 --> 00:45:10.119
we've really, I mean, really honestly, since

00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:13.619
we moved the podcast into this room, things have

00:45:13.619 --> 00:45:19.289
changed dramatically. there's a lot of these

00:45:19.289 --> 00:45:21.349
little hidden blessings that have come along

00:45:21.349 --> 00:45:25.150
and I'm just like, man, I don't want to, I don't

00:45:25.150 --> 00:45:27.809
want, I mean, I hate, I don't want to sound selfish,

00:45:27.849 --> 00:45:30.070
but I don't want to quit this. And then those

00:45:30.070 --> 00:45:32.329
go away. You know what I mean? I don't want that

00:45:32.329 --> 00:45:35.510
to be the key. Yeah. Like, yeah. If it is, then

00:45:35.510 --> 00:45:39.829
like, dude, what am I, what am I doing? You know,

00:45:39.829 --> 00:45:43.510
man, at the end of the day, really like, again,

00:45:43.690 --> 00:45:47.780
like I just, Your heart's where your heart's

00:45:47.780 --> 00:45:50.900
at, right? And I truly believe that when we are

00:45:50.900 --> 00:45:53.159
leaning into Christ, and no matter where you're

00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:58.920
at in that particular space, how far, how fur,

00:45:59.099 --> 00:46:02.119
how far, how fur. That's the reason I had to

00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:04.500
read the opening credits. That's exactly why.

00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:08.960
I didn't have to. Thank you so much for letting

00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.400
me finish. I did not think you were going to

00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:14.409
use it. and you did it's game on brother sorry

00:46:14.409 --> 00:46:17.670
yeah i'm the i'm the chinese guy reading korean

00:46:17.670 --> 00:46:21.769
hieroglyphics or what did you say it just sounded

00:46:21.769 --> 00:46:24.710
like you were from a like you were narrating

00:46:24.710 --> 00:46:36.090
a 70s kung fu movie sorry it doesn't really matter

00:46:36.090 --> 00:46:39.940
like how far you are in your walk or Like, how

00:46:39.940 --> 00:46:42.079
far you feel like you're invested or anything

00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.440
like that. Like, you're still in it. You're still

00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.280
in it. You're still in it. You're still in it.

00:46:47.300 --> 00:46:49.199
And, like, if your heart is not committed to

00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.000
it, if you feel like, look, God doesn't just

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:56.079
force you into anything. He might, right? Like

00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.039
Jonah. Uncomfortably. Right. Like Jonah. Think

00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.300
about Jonah. And Jonah tried to run. And what

00:47:00.300 --> 00:47:02.820
happened? Got swallowed by a big -ass fish. Right.

00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:06.380
And then spooked out. And then spit out. at the

00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:09.000
shore of the place that he was running from like

00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:12.179
you went through all that just to get regurgitated

00:47:12.179 --> 00:47:16.280
by a freaking fish but i mean think about that

00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.320
right like he may force you in but he also may

00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.280
force you out you know what i mean he may pull

00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.400
you out there are seasons in life and look you

00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.699
know that i'm dealing with a season two We're

00:47:26.699 --> 00:47:29.219
both in different places right now. At the end

00:47:29.219 --> 00:47:31.480
of the day... That was another part of it too.

00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:35.380
We've had some very vulnerable conversations

00:47:35.380 --> 00:47:40.000
the last week, week and a half, two weeks. That

00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:43.820
was another part of it too. It was already in

00:47:43.820 --> 00:47:46.219
my... The process is already going through my

00:47:46.219 --> 00:47:50.260
mind and then you bring that to me. I was like...

00:47:50.260 --> 00:47:56.400
I don't want to... I don't want to do this now.

00:47:56.539 --> 00:47:59.000
You understand where I'm coming from. It's like,

00:47:59.019 --> 00:48:02.119
damn, now I'm, now I, like. You don't want to

00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:03.980
feel like you're letting me down. Yeah, because,

00:48:04.099 --> 00:48:06.639
you know, we, me and you would have that conversation

00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:11.639
and you, you know, when you, like, you have someone

00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.000
in a, in a, not, not a moment of desperation,

00:48:14.099 --> 00:48:16.260
but you have someone in a very vulnerable moment

00:48:16.260 --> 00:48:18.119
and they're presenting something to you that's

00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:19.420
uncomfortable. Obviously, it was uncomfortable

00:48:19.420 --> 00:48:20.780
because you called me and you're like, look,

00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:22.980
I don't know where else to take this. I don't

00:48:22.980 --> 00:48:26.000
do this. This is what it is. Well, when you did

00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:29.239
that, this whole stepping back from the podcast

00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:31.420
has been playing in my mind for a few weeks.

00:48:31.539 --> 00:48:35.000
So you did that, and I was like, I was very generic

00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.119
with my response. I know. That's why he didn't

00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:41.719
say much. Yeah. And that's why I was like, man,

00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:44.840
you know what? Like, okay, he's in a genuine

00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:50.619
dire situation. The things that are going on

00:48:50.619 --> 00:48:56.639
with me are of another. part of me it's not it

00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:58.940
wasn't fair for the response that you got i mean

00:48:58.940 --> 00:49:01.639
i didn't wasn't cold i wasn't like oh let's suck

00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:03.900
it up buttercup you know i thought it wasn't

00:49:03.900 --> 00:49:07.480
like that but it was very i was very i you hit

00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.320
me with that and it was like shit i'm not ready

00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:13.179
what am i yeah i'm over here i'm over here playing

00:49:13.179 --> 00:49:15.320
all the things how i'm gonna talk to you about

00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.239
me stepping back for a few for a little while

00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:20.119
you know what i mean and then you bring that

00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.449
and it was like shit now what Like, I feel like

00:49:23.449 --> 00:49:28.449
the biggest douche ever. So now you understand

00:49:28.449 --> 00:49:34.030
the circumstances and how it was such a – I do.

00:49:34.570 --> 00:49:38.289
I also know that you and I have talked a bunch

00:49:38.289 --> 00:49:40.530
of times about, like, the ability to be able

00:49:40.530 --> 00:49:42.250
to talk to each other. You know what I mean?

00:49:42.269 --> 00:49:44.230
And, like, you've kind of not berated me but

00:49:44.230 --> 00:49:46.769
gotten on to me about, like, bro. Yeah, I'm here.

00:49:46.869 --> 00:49:49.769
You know what I'm saying? It goes both ways,

00:49:49.789 --> 00:49:53.409
and it's not a one -way street. My struggle and

00:49:53.409 --> 00:49:55.650
my burden should not be yours, right? And that's

00:49:55.650 --> 00:49:57.349
why it's so hard to talk about. No, no, no, no,

00:49:57.349 --> 00:49:59.349
no. Hold on. First and foremost, it's not a burden

00:49:59.349 --> 00:50:02.889
for me, okay? It's something that genuinely bothers

00:50:02.889 --> 00:50:04.829
you. It is something that you're genuinely struggling

00:50:04.829 --> 00:50:07.530
with. It's not a burden to me. It's also my problem.

00:50:08.210 --> 00:50:09.909
Burden is something that you don't want to deal

00:50:09.909 --> 00:50:12.409
with. Right. Okay? Right, right, right. Problem

00:50:12.409 --> 00:50:14.750
is something that you're willing to attack. Right,

00:50:14.789 --> 00:50:17.769
right. Like, okay, we have a problem. Yeah. When

00:50:17.769 --> 00:50:19.690
you say like, Oh, well, we got a problem. That's

00:50:19.690 --> 00:50:21.469
someone you're willing to attack. You don't ever

00:50:21.469 --> 00:50:23.909
say, Oh, well, we got a burden. Cause that's

00:50:23.909 --> 00:50:25.769
something that you don't want to deal with. Right.

00:50:25.889 --> 00:50:29.309
Okay. So don't like your burdens, your burdens

00:50:29.309 --> 00:50:31.769
are not my burdens. Your problems are my problems.

00:50:31.889 --> 00:50:33.670
Right. That's how we're going to approach that.

00:50:33.789 --> 00:50:36.170
Okay. Yeah. So that was the part of me that was

00:50:36.170 --> 00:50:38.190
having a hard time. Right. I understand that.

00:50:38.429 --> 00:50:41.829
My thing is, is like, because you're in that

00:50:41.829 --> 00:50:44.750
place, it's not, it should not be, it's not a

00:50:44.750 --> 00:50:47.940
guilt trip thing. It shouldn't guilt you into

00:50:47.940 --> 00:50:49.340
being like, well, I'm going to just keep doing

00:50:49.340 --> 00:50:52.900
it. No, it was never that I felt that way. It

00:50:52.900 --> 00:50:57.719
was that, okay, for the first time ever, you

00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:01.239
brought that to me. Okay. And when you brought

00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:04.760
that to me in the first time ever, I'm thinking

00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.340
about stepping back. So it was like, well, shit.

00:51:09.780 --> 00:51:13.360
You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. Like, yeah,

00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:17.260
good job, stupid. Like, you're genuinely struggling

00:51:17.260 --> 00:51:21.159
with a problem. Yeah. Right? And it's not, when

00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.980
I say problem, it's not a problem. It's, you

00:51:23.980 --> 00:51:27.780
call it, you call it a struggle. You call it

00:51:27.780 --> 00:51:29.920
whatever you want to call it. But you're dealing

00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.599
with something that means something to you. Right.

00:51:33.659 --> 00:51:35.679
Right? Yeah. And it means something to me, too,

00:51:35.699 --> 00:51:38.380
because you're dealing with it. Yeah. But I wasn't

00:51:38.380 --> 00:51:40.099
expecting that. And you're like, hey, you got

00:51:40.099 --> 00:51:43.960
time? I'm like, yeah. I'm sure that was the last

00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:45.800
thing you thought was about to come out of my

00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.139
face. I'm mulling over things in my mind, you

00:51:49.139 --> 00:51:53.820
know, like, hey, I took, what, three weeks off,

00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:58.139
and then I came back for a week, and then all

00:51:58.139 --> 00:52:00.719
this is going on. I'm like, man, I've really

00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:03.239
got to figure out how to talk to him. I want

00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:05.400
to do it to where it doesn't seem like I'm just

00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:07.940
like, piss on this. I don't want to do it no

00:52:07.940 --> 00:52:11.980
more because it's not that. It's not that. There's

00:52:11.980 --> 00:52:14.260
a lot of things happening in my professional

00:52:14.260 --> 00:52:16.320
life that are really stressful. And there's a

00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:18.780
lot of extra responsibilities getting piled onto

00:52:18.780 --> 00:52:20.920
me. And there's some other things. And it's like,

00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:24.820
man, I just, I got to, in order for me to be

00:52:24.820 --> 00:52:27.440
something that's going to be productive here,

00:52:27.619 --> 00:52:30.260
especially or anywhere else in life, I got to

00:52:30.260 --> 00:52:33.159
regroup and I got to refocus. Yep. Circle the

00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:35.519
wagons. Yeah. And then you hit me with that.

00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:43.170
I was like, man. But. This is where I want to

00:52:43.170 --> 00:52:48.329
clarify. I'm glad you did because it made me

00:52:48.329 --> 00:52:51.570
understand that, okay, like you came to me when

00:52:51.570 --> 00:52:54.090
you were vulnerable and you talked to me. That's

00:52:54.090 --> 00:52:56.110
why when I sat down, I was like, hey, I need

00:52:56.110 --> 00:52:58.389
to talk to you. Yep. I would rather that. Because

00:52:58.389 --> 00:53:00.610
you come to me like, hey, look, this is something

00:53:00.610 --> 00:53:04.730
I'm dealing with. Yep. You know what? Yep. I'm

00:53:04.730 --> 00:53:06.550
going to pray for you. I'm going to do all these

00:53:06.550 --> 00:53:09.409
things I can for you. But that's what gave me

00:53:09.409 --> 00:53:11.849
the courage. Okay, so it's been. it was four

00:53:11.849 --> 00:53:14.590
weeks straight that I've been mulling over this

00:53:14.590 --> 00:53:16.690
with all that. I knew things were happening as

00:53:16.690 --> 00:53:19.409
far as like at work. Yeah. Like I knew things

00:53:19.409 --> 00:53:20.929
were about to change. I could feel it with how

00:53:20.929 --> 00:53:22.750
everything was kind of starting to pile up. You

00:53:22.750 --> 00:53:24.829
could see it lining up. Yeah. I knew things were

00:53:24.829 --> 00:53:27.329
changing. And then it was like, man, you had

00:53:27.329 --> 00:53:30.070
the courage to come to me when, and talk to me

00:53:30.070 --> 00:53:31.590
when you were having a problem. I was like, man,

00:53:31.650 --> 00:53:35.130
I really got to get this off my chest. Yep. It's

00:53:35.130 --> 00:53:38.489
one of the primary reasons I did it. I think

00:53:38.489 --> 00:53:40.309
I mentioned it in the conversation. I was like,

00:53:40.349 --> 00:53:43.019
man, I can't, Yeah, you can't have the conversations

00:53:43.019 --> 00:53:45.139
we've had on this podcast about men reaching

00:53:45.139 --> 00:53:47.219
out and then be the man that doesn't reach out.

00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:50.179
Yeah. You know what I mean? And I'm not going

00:53:50.179 --> 00:53:52.980
to be sugar -coated. I'm not going to lie to

00:53:52.980 --> 00:53:55.539
you. I'm not in a suicidal place, but I can see

00:53:55.539 --> 00:53:58.280
a scenario. Okay, you say that you're not suicidal,

00:53:58.500 --> 00:54:03.019
but you can see the scenario. I can see a pathway

00:54:03.019 --> 00:54:05.039
where it gets that far. That means you're suicidal,

00:54:05.219 --> 00:54:10.440
bro. If you ever envision any point in your life

00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:16.840
that you can see an exit like that, then yes,

00:54:16.980 --> 00:54:20.079
you have those tendencies. I can tell you personally

00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:25.039
right now, I've had that numerous times. I've

00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.500
had that a couple times over the last few months.

00:54:28.980 --> 00:54:36.380
Yeah. But it's not because I guess it's pretty

00:54:36.380 --> 00:54:39.440
similar to, what you're going through. It's,

00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:43.119
it's more of my own personal, like it's on, it's

00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:46.039
more my own mental state. It's not because something's

00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:48.179
bad's happening because nothing bad's happening.

00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:50.239
My life is really good, man. I'm not complaining,

00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:53.719
but it's the, it's the, the ability to, to grasp

00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:58.019
the things in my mind. Yeah. The reason I made

00:54:58.019 --> 00:55:00.539
the phone call brother, cause I know that you've,

00:55:00.619 --> 00:55:04.980
I personally don't have people that I've lost

00:55:04.980 --> 00:55:08.730
to suicide. I've had, I've been experienced with

00:55:08.730 --> 00:55:13.269
my dad attempting. I was super young. It's been

00:55:13.269 --> 00:55:16.570
a very long time since that's happened. I've

00:55:16.570 --> 00:55:19.670
seen people in places where I feared that could

00:55:19.670 --> 00:55:23.250
be something, and I tried to help them. At the

00:55:23.250 --> 00:55:28.849
end of the day, I'm in a place where I know I

00:55:28.849 --> 00:55:32.789
need something. I need help. And that's why I

00:55:32.789 --> 00:55:35.800
said, hey, look, I want you to know. Primarily

00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:38.480
because I want to be honest with you. And also

00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.420
I want you to know that I'm seeking help. I'm

00:55:40.420 --> 00:55:42.119
not just trying to do it by myself. Okay, so

00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.239
here's the part of this that I don't really think

00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.940
you understand is that, you know, I lost two

00:55:47.940 --> 00:55:50.380
of my very best friends eight weeks apart. Eight

00:55:50.380 --> 00:55:52.360
weeks to the day. Exactly eight weeks to the

00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:55.820
day apart. Yeah. I don't want to have to ever

00:55:55.820 --> 00:55:58.019
do that again. I don't want you to either. You

00:55:58.019 --> 00:55:59.980
know what they never did to me? They never reached

00:55:59.980 --> 00:56:02.469
out and said anything to me. Yeah. Like, I got

00:56:02.469 --> 00:56:04.269
a phone call at 3 o 'clock in the morning one

00:56:04.269 --> 00:56:08.909
morning, right? And then about a week later,

00:56:09.010 --> 00:56:14.489
my other buddy that killed himself reached out

00:56:14.489 --> 00:56:17.090
to me, and he asked me if I was okay. And I was

00:56:17.090 --> 00:56:19.530
like, yeah, I just don't understand. And he said,

00:56:19.670 --> 00:56:27.530
I don't understand either. So I lost one. We

00:56:27.530 --> 00:56:36.090
were super close. And. I mean, like that one,

00:56:36.130 --> 00:56:39.230
I was when I got the phone call that said he

00:56:39.230 --> 00:56:41.750
was gone, I was thinking, man, he he like he

00:56:41.750 --> 00:56:43.769
was drunk and he wrecked his truck. That's what

00:56:43.769 --> 00:56:47.130
I was thinking. Yeah. And then when they said

00:56:47.130 --> 00:56:49.969
he hung himself, it was like, what? We were just

00:56:49.969 --> 00:56:53.090
we were with him Wednesday. It happens Friday.

00:56:53.610 --> 00:56:59.309
Yeah. And exactly, you know, not exactly. Roughly

00:56:59.309 --> 00:57:02.579
a week later. another one of my very best friends

00:57:02.579 --> 00:57:05.420
calls me. He's like, hey, how are you doing?

00:57:05.579 --> 00:57:09.079
I seen him at the funeral, but it was like just

00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:13.679
in and out, passing. Yeah, I mean, it was a really

00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:20.760
bad circumstance, you know, and he asked if I

00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.239
was okay, and I said, I was like, no, I don't

00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:26.920
understand it. Like, I don't understand why he

00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:28.699
wouldn't. He was so happy. I seen him Wednesday,

00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:38.099
and he was so happy. Yeah. Not reach out, like

00:57:38.099 --> 00:57:42.239
not say anything, not ask. I mean, and everybody

00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:44.019
knows this story. Everybody that listens knows

00:57:44.019 --> 00:57:45.739
the story. He was one of the biggest advocates

00:57:45.739 --> 00:57:49.019
for me getting clean. Yep. He, he, he harped

00:57:49.019 --> 00:57:52.369
on me. I mean, he was on me. 24 seven. He was

00:57:52.369 --> 00:57:54.829
on me to a point where at one point me and him

00:57:54.829 --> 00:57:57.650
were actually beefing about it. Like, dude, I

00:57:57.650 --> 00:58:00.210
will just give me, cut me some slack. Shut up.

00:58:00.210 --> 00:58:01.610
Leave me alone for a little bit. And he's like,

00:58:01.710 --> 00:58:04.110
no, I'm done with this shit. You're done. Yeah.

00:58:04.210 --> 00:58:05.610
Like you're going to, we're going to, you're

00:58:05.610 --> 00:58:06.929
going to quit. You're going to come hang out

00:58:06.929 --> 00:58:11.809
with me. Like we're going to, uh, and exactly

00:58:11.809 --> 00:58:16.309
eight weeks to the day, eight freaking Fridays.

00:58:19.369 --> 00:58:23.809
My other homie shoots himself. After we had that

00:58:23.809 --> 00:58:25.670
conversation, he's like, are you okay? And I'm

00:58:25.670 --> 00:58:29.250
like, no, I don't understand. And I mean, you

00:58:29.250 --> 00:58:33.389
know, we tried to record one night, and I was

00:58:33.389 --> 00:58:35.590
having a mental freaking breakdown about this.

00:58:35.710 --> 00:58:38.929
I didn't understand. And sometimes I still don't.

00:58:38.969 --> 00:58:42.829
Sometimes I still get real. Yeah. I have that.

00:58:43.349 --> 00:58:52.539
So don't, you know, coming to me is. It's a hundred

00:58:52.539 --> 00:58:54.500
times better than the alternative. You know what

00:58:54.500 --> 00:58:58.059
I mean? And the part, that's why I felt so terrible

00:58:58.059 --> 00:59:02.099
because you came to me and I was like, I'm here.

00:59:02.179 --> 00:59:06.739
I am. I'm mulling over business decisions, things

00:59:06.739 --> 00:59:08.340
that are going to be there tomorrow. That's always

00:59:08.340 --> 00:59:10.739
going to be there tomorrow. Yeah. You know, a

00:59:10.739 --> 00:59:12.800
human life is not always going to be there tomorrow.

00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:15.360
Right. And so that was where the, that's why

00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.739
it was so hard to open up and really talk to

00:59:18.739 --> 00:59:21.820
you about it is because I just struggled. with

00:59:21.820 --> 00:59:24.719
it. I mean, it was, I get it. I do understand.

00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.219
I can totally understand that. It's easy to see

00:59:28.219 --> 00:59:30.380
looking back. Like I didn't know that at the

00:59:30.380 --> 00:59:32.619
time, you know what I mean? But I didn't want,

00:59:32.699 --> 00:59:36.099
I wanted to, at the time that I said, you reaching

00:59:36.099 --> 00:59:41.780
out is it, I was, I w I'm super grateful for,

00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.679
I didn't have the best reaction because it was

00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:47.039
like, how do you react to that? Well, no, but

00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.400
because. Here I have been the last four weeks

00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:52.300
mulling over how do I talk to him about me stepping

00:59:52.300 --> 00:59:55.679
back from the podcast. I need to step back for

00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:58.039
a little bit. Then you hit me with that, and

00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.639
it's like, okay, this is something. I don't know

01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:03.260
how to step back now because I don't want to

01:00:03.260 --> 01:00:05.860
be the one that lets you down in your time of

01:00:05.860 --> 01:00:09.039
need. But I also wanted to be the one that's

01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:11.320
honest enough with you to say, hey, man, look,

01:00:11.460 --> 01:00:13.320
I know you're going through something, and I'm

01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:16.320
going through something too. Yours is, to me,

01:00:16.380 --> 01:00:20.289
yours is more important to me. Mine is not a

01:00:20.289 --> 01:00:25.449
– yours was a dire situation. You reached out

01:00:25.449 --> 01:00:30.969
in kind of a dire need. I'm not doing that. Mine

01:00:30.969 --> 01:00:34.730
is more professional related. Still good for

01:00:34.730 --> 01:00:37.329
your mental health, man. Still good to get those

01:00:37.329 --> 01:00:39.289
thoughts corrected. I was having a really hard

01:00:39.289 --> 01:00:41.269
time with how I was going to handle this tonight,

01:00:41.389 --> 01:00:44.230
and it came out good. I feel like it came out

01:00:44.230 --> 01:00:48.059
good. Let me – Let me say this, bro. This is

01:00:48.059 --> 01:00:51.099
a, it's not even the end, man. It's just a pause.

01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:53.239
You know what I mean? And you're still my brother

01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:55.460
and I'm still going to reach out to you. And

01:00:55.460 --> 01:00:58.000
I'm still like, if I'm in a, in a, in a state

01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:01.699
of need, I feel comfortable enough to reach out.

01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:07.739
I will. It's hard. Damn it. It's hard. It's hard

01:01:07.739 --> 01:01:15.559
to do. It's hard to say. But I want to be an

01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:21.619
example to others. They got to do it too. Damn

01:01:21.619 --> 01:01:26.079
it. Reach out to us. Reach out to somebody. Make

01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:30.119
a phone call. Send a message. Call 811 or whatever

01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:32.420
the number is. I don't know what it is. There's

01:01:32.420 --> 01:01:37.699
a crisis hotline. Call it. I feel like I'm reaching

01:01:37.699 --> 01:01:40.860
out before I'm at that point. And that's... But

01:01:40.860 --> 01:01:42.820
I know I'm at a point that it's getting close.

01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.320
I'm getting – not even close. It's far enough

01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.300
where it's like, okay, I'm – You're starting

01:01:47.300 --> 01:01:49.860
to think about it. If you're starting to think

01:01:49.860 --> 01:01:51.780
about it, it's close enough. I'm getting really

01:01:51.780 --> 01:01:53.599
terrified at this point. And I don't want to

01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:55.940
hurt people. I don't want to leave people behind

01:01:55.940 --> 01:01:59.800
in such a way. I'm not designed that way. I'm

01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:02.260
not meant to do that. I have more to do here.

01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:05.519
I want to help people. And I truly believe that

01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.380
every challenge we go through is an opportunity

01:02:07.380 --> 01:02:12.889
to grow. is preparing me for somebody else or

01:02:12.889 --> 01:02:15.610
something else later, for me to be able to help

01:02:15.610 --> 01:02:18.849
somebody later. But I have to heal first. I have

01:02:18.849 --> 01:02:20.849
to get through my own first, and that's part

01:02:20.849 --> 01:02:23.769
of it. So I don't know what I'm dealing with.

01:02:23.849 --> 01:02:25.329
I don't even really know what the true problem

01:02:25.329 --> 01:02:27.050
is. I just know there's a problem and I need

01:02:27.050 --> 01:02:30.369
help, and I have been making the steps to get

01:02:30.369 --> 01:02:32.110
the help. I've talked to a couple of people,

01:02:32.210 --> 01:02:36.070
including my pastor. I reached out to a counselor

01:02:36.070 --> 01:02:40.789
today, privately contacted them. Ask them to,

01:02:40.869 --> 01:02:44.269
you know, can they fit me in? Can we talk something?

01:02:44.630 --> 01:02:46.550
Is it going to be a fit? It's going to be a Christian

01:02:46.550 --> 01:02:48.550
counselor, somebody who's got the same values

01:02:48.550 --> 01:02:52.150
as me. And I really need to talk to a man. You

01:02:52.150 --> 01:02:55.530
know what I mean? Because I don't, not that a

01:02:55.530 --> 01:02:57.869
female can't help me. I just feel like I can't

01:02:57.869 --> 01:02:59.949
be completely honest with a female. You know

01:02:59.949 --> 01:03:01.469
what I mean? I need to be able to talk to a man.

01:03:01.570 --> 01:03:05.590
So that's where I'm at, man. And it's hard to

01:03:05.590 --> 01:03:09.860
talk about, especially in this forum. At the

01:03:09.860 --> 01:03:11.380
time that I spoke to you, you were the third

01:03:11.380 --> 01:03:13.440
person I had spoken to. I talked to my wife,

01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:15.699
I talked to my dad, and then I talked to you.

01:03:16.500 --> 01:03:18.780
But I wanted you to know that I was taking the

01:03:18.780 --> 01:03:22.539
steps. I didn't want to call you and be like,

01:03:22.579 --> 01:03:24.099
bro, I don't know where I'm going, but this might

01:03:24.099 --> 01:03:26.000
be the end. You know what I mean? I wanted to

01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:27.780
call you and say, hey, look, man, I don't know

01:03:27.780 --> 01:03:29.219
where I'm at. I don't know what's going on. I

01:03:29.219 --> 01:03:31.440
don't know what I need, but I know I need something.

01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.579
And so I'm going to do the necessary thing. I'm

01:03:34.579 --> 01:03:36.920
going to put in the work to get better because

01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:40.659
I deserve it. I deserve to be better. And the

01:03:40.659 --> 01:03:44.780
people around me deserve me being better. That's

01:03:44.780 --> 01:03:48.659
it. So, you know, we always end this show with

01:03:48.659 --> 01:03:55.039
a joke and a wisdom. But before, I'm not going

01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:57.599
to tell a joke. I'm going to say a prayer. And

01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.159
this is something that I never do, but it's pretty

01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:10.000
compelling right now. Father God, in all your

01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.099
glory, I just ask that you take your healing

01:04:13.099 --> 01:04:16.079
hand that we know is so powerful and you place

01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:17.659
it on everybody that's struggling with something

01:04:17.659 --> 01:04:20.519
that's threatening their lives or threatening

01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:23.800
their mental state. Father, this is going to

01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:27.739
sound very, very controversial. I know that June

01:04:27.739 --> 01:04:30.519
is typically known as Pride Month. It was first

01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:35.840
men's mental health month. The mental health

01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:38.960
of men is such a struggle. Father, I just ask

01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:42.440
that you put your hand of healing and you help

01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:45.119
people and you present yourself to those that

01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:47.000
don't know you, Father, that they may be saved

01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:48.780
from the enemy and have abundant and eternal

01:04:48.780 --> 01:04:52.699
life, Father. We know that the sacrifice that

01:04:52.699 --> 01:04:56.079
you made in your son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus

01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:58.900
Christ, was for our Savior, so we may have an

01:04:58.900 --> 01:05:01.360
eternal life. We thank you so much for that,

01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:06.320
Father. You are the healing effort that comes

01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:09.960
from us or for us. We thank you so much. And

01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:14.340
it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. What

01:05:14.340 --> 01:05:20.480
holds five toes? Wait, hold on. I got to do it,

01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:22.460
dude. I got to do it. I got to lighten the mood.

01:05:22.739 --> 01:05:24.960
I have to lighten the mood. It's a tradition.

01:05:25.340 --> 01:05:27.760
Yeah. Okay. What's the – wait, hold on, hold

01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:33.840
on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Fork. Holy fork.

01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.780
I just bought my grandma a new stair lift. All

01:05:39.780 --> 01:05:45.739
right. It's driving her up the wall. Praise God.

01:05:45.780 --> 01:05:57.500
Thank you, Jesus. That's hilarious. This one's

01:05:57.500 --> 01:06:02.889
a little bit lighter for me. It's an unknown

01:06:02.889 --> 01:06:05.510
quote. Don't know who said it, but it says, everything

01:06:05.510 --> 01:06:09.409
is beautiful depending on the situation. A school

01:06:09.409 --> 01:06:12.610
bell is irritating at 9 a .m., but the same bell

01:06:12.610 --> 01:06:20.070
sounds melodious at 4 p .m. Funny how that works,

01:06:20.110 --> 01:06:27.889
isn't it? Perspective matters. Okay. And I really

01:06:27.889 --> 01:06:33.050
just want to take a minute to... I tell you,

01:06:33.070 --> 01:06:36.349
thank you for reaching out. Thank you for answering.

01:06:37.210 --> 01:06:39.670
Well, I mean, you don't got to thank me for answering,

01:06:39.730 --> 01:06:42.429
but, you know, the reaching out part I know is

01:06:42.429 --> 01:06:47.409
hard. Yeah. But I can't – I don't think I'm equipped

01:06:47.409 --> 01:06:50.789
to lose another one like that. I'm not that guy.

01:06:50.909 --> 01:06:56.659
I mean, I'm not. You know, it – It really does.

01:06:56.760 --> 01:07:00.059
It weighs heavy on me every freaking day, dude.

01:07:00.219 --> 01:07:03.260
I mean, I'm being dead serious. It weighs super

01:07:03.260 --> 01:07:08.920
heavy. I know. I'm not prepared to let you. Just

01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:14.500
reaching out is a huge step. I love you, brother.

01:07:14.739 --> 01:07:18.460
I love you too, brother. I mean, I don't want

01:07:18.460 --> 01:07:20.559
to ever hear anything. I don't want to ever hear

01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:23.829
about. a suicide ever again. I mean, in the history

01:07:23.829 --> 01:07:25.969
of ever, if I never heard about another one,

01:07:26.010 --> 01:07:28.489
I'd be the happiest person alive, but that's

01:07:28.489 --> 01:07:32.309
kind of my goal. I don't want that to happen

01:07:32.309 --> 01:07:34.670
to anybody. It's not just me. You know, I think

01:07:34.670 --> 01:07:39.210
it's like every 22 seconds. It's a lot. It's,

01:07:39.210 --> 01:07:42.349
it's, it's really, it's very often. There's three

01:07:42.349 --> 01:07:44.849
quarters of a million people a year in the United

01:07:44.849 --> 01:07:49.130
States that die by suicide. Uh, four out of.

01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:52.619
One out of every four of those are female, so

01:07:52.619 --> 01:07:55.800
four times the amount are men. There are 14 million

01:07:55.800 --> 01:08:00.920
attempts a year. 14 million attempts at taking

01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:02.460
their own lives a year, which means there's a

01:08:02.460 --> 01:08:05.019
lot of failed attempts. But there's a lot of

01:08:05.019 --> 01:08:10.719
people on very loose edges trying to survive

01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:14.920
a war zone. This life is hard. We need each other.

01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:22.970
We need Christ. We need peace. my entire motivation

01:08:22.970 --> 01:08:25.729
wasn't I need to make sure I'm being a good example.

01:08:25.829 --> 01:08:28.289
My entire motivation was I need to make sure

01:08:28.289 --> 01:08:32.550
that I'm doing, I'm giving my best effort. Okay,

01:08:32.590 --> 01:08:36.569
let me just offer you like a promising little

01:08:36.569 --> 01:08:44.270
tidbit, okay? You're, you are changing the world.

01:08:45.260 --> 01:08:47.600
through your efforts and your beliefs. And the

01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:50.460
enemy is going to attack you at your strongest

01:08:50.460 --> 01:08:53.960
point. Absolutely. So in order to keep you from

01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:59.140
making these changes and reaching out to people,

01:08:59.260 --> 01:09:01.119
he's going to put you in that position where

01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:02.899
he's going to make you feel like your life isn't

01:09:02.899 --> 01:09:05.340
important anymore or like your struggle is not

01:09:05.340 --> 01:09:09.699
important anymore. This is an attack. And let

01:09:09.699 --> 01:09:12.680
me tell you this because this has weighed heavy

01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:16.739
on me for the last few weeks. If the enemy's

01:09:16.739 --> 01:09:20.060
not attacking you, it's because he's already

01:09:20.060 --> 01:09:25.640
got you. Yep. Okay? I agree. The enemy only attacks

01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:31.000
you to keep you from trying to reach out. If

01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:34.279
he already has you, he's not going to attack

01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:35.300
you because then you're going to start reaching

01:09:35.300 --> 01:09:37.479
out to God. What's he fighting for? Yeah, he's

01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:39.020
not fighting for anything. Why would he fight

01:09:39.020 --> 01:09:41.619
if you're already there? Yeah, if you're already

01:09:41.619 --> 01:09:44.920
reaching out to God. He's going to start really

01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:48.380
attacking you because he wants you to question

01:09:48.380 --> 01:09:52.260
that. You know what I mean? 100%. So. I agree.

01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:56.880
You know, I mean, this has been a great conversation.

01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:01.760
Sorry to take it there, brother. No, this is,

01:10:01.819 --> 01:10:07.060
we started sports. We end up here and it's for

01:10:07.060 --> 01:10:17.319
a. It's great. It's awesome. It's real, man.

01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:22.619
I thank you, and I'll be back. I'll be back.

01:10:23.539 --> 01:10:30.220
I just really – I love you, brother. I love you

01:10:30.220 --> 01:10:33.140
too, brother. You got to do – you got to get

01:10:33.140 --> 01:10:35.279
what you need just like I got to get what I need.

01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:38.260
This is something to me that I still have to

01:10:38.260 --> 01:10:44.119
do. It is beneficial to me. It helps me. It's

01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:47.140
not a burden. It isn't. I love doing it, actually.

01:10:47.180 --> 01:10:52.899
I enjoy the editing. I enjoy the clipping. I

01:10:52.899 --> 01:10:54.920
enjoy doing it. It's something that consumes

01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:59.659
my time, but it's focused and it's driven and

01:10:59.659 --> 01:11:04.680
it's something that keeps me off of other things.

01:11:04.859 --> 01:11:10.220
You know what I mean? Until next July. until

01:11:10.220 --> 01:11:16.640
next July when I get my trike. It's coming. But

01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:19.640
it's not goodbye, man. It's just a pause. But

01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:21.520
here's another thing, too. So there's like this

01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:23.100
movement, and I've talked to you about it, the

01:11:23.100 --> 01:11:30.600
Bikers with Bibles. Yeah. It's a pretty cool

01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:33.840
thing that they do. They take Bibles to these

01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:36.859
prisons, and they try to preach the gospel and

01:11:36.859 --> 01:11:39.779
stuff like that. when I hear stuff like that,

01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:42.199
like I'm not that guy. That's like, I'm not a

01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:46.460
MC guy. I'm not a motorcycle club guy. I'm not

01:11:46.460 --> 01:11:48.979
this. I'm not that. Like, I'm just, I just like

01:11:48.979 --> 01:11:51.039
to get out and get a little wind therapy, do

01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:54.460
that kind of stuff. But it'd be real cool to

01:11:54.460 --> 01:11:56.779
have a purpose like that. Like, you know, like

01:11:56.779 --> 01:11:59.859
every Sunday, like we know, like at four o 'clock,

01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:04.659
we're going to ride to so -and -so and, and drop

01:12:04.659 --> 01:12:08.390
off bibles and. reach out and talk to that kind

01:12:08.390 --> 01:12:11.510
of stuff you know i mean 100 your hobby should

01:12:11.510 --> 01:12:14.789
also be a passion yep you know what i mean and

01:12:14.789 --> 01:12:17.310
i feel like it's not a passion if it doesn't

01:12:17.310 --> 01:12:20.890
have purpose and and it can't have purpose unless

01:12:20.890 --> 01:12:22.989
it's something that you hold true to your values

01:12:22.989 --> 01:12:25.989
and your roots and that's something that you

01:12:25.989 --> 01:12:30.350
know me and you both know for hand in hand without

01:12:30.350 --> 01:12:38.890
question We love you guys. Thank you so much

01:12:38.890 --> 01:12:40.329
for listening. Love you, brother. I love you

01:12:40.329 --> 01:12:42.630
too, brother. Thank you for giving me this opportunity

01:12:42.630 --> 01:12:45.649
to be a part of this. Thank you for reaching

01:12:45.649 --> 01:12:50.369
out to me. Thanks for answering. Man, I know

01:12:50.369 --> 01:12:53.789
you don't want to hear that, but there have been

01:12:53.789 --> 01:12:55.210
plenty of times in my life where I didn't get

01:12:55.210 --> 01:12:59.149
an answer, so I do appreciate it. And it ain't

01:12:59.149 --> 01:13:02.220
over. I'm here for you. I know. I know. This

01:13:02.220 --> 01:13:06.260
is not the end of anything. I know. It's just

01:13:06.260 --> 01:13:08.800
a pause, man. And Bumper Sticker Wisdom is going

01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:10.840
to still be here. And, you know, people are going

01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:13.340
to ask, where's Jason? Well, he'll be here when

01:13:13.340 --> 01:13:16.199
he's ready to be here. I'll be back at some point.

01:13:17.739 --> 01:13:19.699
He's going to share jokes with my wife because

01:13:19.699 --> 01:13:21.220
I'm sure that's who's going to fill that chair.

01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:25.439
Man, we love you. We thank you. Come on with

01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:27.500
this ride. If you need help, please reach out

01:13:27.500 --> 01:13:30.180
to somebody. Absolutely. Absolutely reach out.

01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:33.039
Whether it's this podcast or it's the Crisis

01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:36.640
Hotline or if it's a friend or a pastor or somebody,

01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:39.180
reach out to somebody. Stranger. Take the courage.

01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:45.659
Sometimes a stranger has the best. I have had

01:13:45.659 --> 01:13:48.539
that experience where a stranger has been the

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one to talk me down. You don't even know. Just

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reach out. I mean, start the process. Things

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change.