Please Reach Out!

0:00 Never pay back evil with more evil. Do things in such a way that everyone can see you are honorable. Do all that you can to live in peace with everyone. Dear friends, never take revenge. Leave that to the righteous anger of God. For the scriptures say, I will take revenge, I will pay them back, says the Lord. Instead, if your enemies are hungry, feed them. If they are thirsty, give them something to drink. In doing this, you will heap. burning coals of shame on their heads. Don't let evil conquer you, but conquer evil by doing good.

1:10 Hello, everyone. Welcome to Bumper Sticker Wisdom. I'm Jason. I'm John. Brother John's going to say a quick little prayer and we'll get started. Yes, sir. Heavenly Father, thank you for giving this time and this opportunity to us and just help us to take advantage of it. Give us everything that we need to make the most of it. glorify you and to draw people near to you, Father. We just ask that anybody who may be listening right now, Father, there's something there for them, some substance that will help them start to grow, to start to heal, to start to seek you, because that's the most important thing, to seek you. Because if we seek you, we will find you. Father, we love you, we thank you, and it's in Jesus' glorious name. Amen. Amen. Yes, sir. Thanks for doing that. Well, it was kind of a really what I was planning on doing. I didn't think that you were going to keep it. I was doing it just thinking like, man, I was like, I want to try that. You know, at first I was like, oh, yeah, he's just joking. But then I was like, it's fine.

2:18 I'll just leave it. Really wasn't my intentions to go to the bowl. I was just trying it. I was really trying to use like a narrator's voice, and then you said that I sounded like an Asian trying to narrate a Korean movie. That's what it sounded like. I'm sorry. It was just... It was just the voice along with the. Yeah. Well, okay. So first and foremost, I do have a little bit of Asian blood in me. All right, bro. I didn't mean it like that. It just kind of came out.

2:59 It just, what I heard came from a Bruce Lee movie. That's what I heard. Really? Bruce Lee. That's what I like. Jet Li or Jackie Chan. They had a lot of talking in those movies. Jackie Chan, they don't narrate like that. What I heard was like a 70s kung fu movie. You know what I mean? I can see that. It was very... Lord says. I don't even remember what it was now. That's the crazy thing. Don't pay back evil for evil. Let God do his work. Just real quick, I have to ask you this. Yes, sir. Knicks or Spurs? I'm on Knicks mainly because I can't stand the Spurs as a Mavericks fan. Well, me either, but I'm also on some Let's Go Texas. Yeah, I get that too. The only reason I'm pulling for the Knicks is it's kind of like the Buffalo Bills for me, right? Like it's a starved fan base. They haven't won in – I think it was in the 70s. Phil Jackson played for the Knicks the last time they won a title. You know what I mean? It's that far back. They've been close and never been able to get it done. Michael Jordan stopped them all those years. Then they do make it to the finals, and it's Hakeem Olajuwon and that team and the Rockets. You know what I mean? They couldn't handle Hakeem the Dream and Clyde Drexler. Was Robert Ory? I think Robert

4:32 Ory is on that team. Really, really, really good players on that team. You know, that's the only reason why. It's not because of – I get it, too, though, the whole Texas proud. I am that guy, but I'm also very – I've always been a Dallas sports fan. So, Mavericks, Stars, Rangers, Cowboys, you know what I mean? Like, I've always kind of been that way. So, I don't really like the Rockets. I don't really like – The Spurs. See, I don't like them if we're playing them. Yeah, of course. Right? But if anyone else they're playing, yes. Yeah. And I get it. My dad's like that too. Well, through the regular season, I'm not a fan of any of them either because I'm like, I want my boys to shine. Yeah, I don't pay attention to them like that. But, you know, I'm not going to be sad if they win, but I'm not going to be sad if they lose either. You know what I mean?

5:30 It's kind of where I'm at. I think it's a year or two. I actually think it's two years too soon. I don't know if – They're going to be good. They're going to be good for a while, honestly. They've got a lot of pieces. Victor Wimbanyama, he's a future MVP. I mean, he's got all the skills, man. He's KD with defense. Yeah. But he's also KD with like – five inches an extra an extra foot yeah yeah so it's like but he's he's uh that was the knock on KD coming in was that he's too small he's too skinny you know what I mean he's not got enough strength not enough body um Victor Wimbinyama's no bigger no he's bigger lengthwise yeah I mean I feel like he's honestly I feel like he's smaller skinnier yeah yeah yeah so uh that was always the knock on Kevin Durant he's not gonna have the strength to stand up in the NBA and he has been able to have a great career in the NBA, a Hall of Fame career in the NBA, one of the great shot creators that there is. But he doesn't have the defense that Victor Wimbledon has. Wimbledon has great instincts for the ball on defense. That's what he does.

6:41 He gets to the ball. He's got the length. He blocks shots that you don't normally see get blocked. You know what I mean? Well, it's also because he has a – He probably has like a 40 -inch vertical, and he's 7 -foot stupid. You know what I mean? So he's out there 11 freaking feet. It's really hard to shoot over an 11 -foot freaking target. Yeah, 100%. So, you know, I think the Spurs' time will come again. They're going to have another championship soon. This series ain't over by any stretch. I know it's 2 -0, but. Game three always has a thing, and this is now being played in San Antonio. If the home team wins out right now, this is an even series going back to New York, right? And so if you get it back to even – I thought it was – I thought the first two games were in San Antonio.

7:35 I don't think so, no. I thought that was – Okay, look it up for me. I thought that was like the big deal. I thought they were – you know what? I'm – Dude, I thought that was like the big deal. You might be right. That's how well I'm paying attention, too, though, because I thought they were playing at the Garden the first two games. I like game sevens, too. Yeah, they're in Madison Square Garden tonight. Okay, so they played the first two on the road. So they're down two, and the Knicks have them at home the next three. It goes 2 -3 -2, right? Is it still that way? It used to be 2 -3 -2, and then I thought they changed it to 2 -2 -1 -1 -1. Two for the primary home team. Two to start. And then one home at home. It just started. It's nothing, nothing right now. Anyway, that's beside the point. At the end of the day, I'm kind of one of those, like, if I don't have a rooting interest, I go for the team that's been the longest or has never won it. So, like, I hate Oklahoma City, too, but I was pulling for them last year. You know what I mean? Yeah, I was not pulling for them this year. No, I wasn't pulling for them this year either. You know what I mean? Like, I won't.

8:50 If it's not my team, right? No, I'm saying when it was OKC and the Spurs, I was hard on the Spurs. Like, let's go. Let's go, yeah. And, yeah, I'm like that too. It's like that for me with. All sports. I'm just that way. Like, when it gets down to that last, like, four to eight teams, I start looking at the teams that either never won it or it's been the longest. Yeah. Right? So, in the NFL, you know, it gets to the conference championship game and the Falcons and the Bills are in there, and the NFC and one of the AFC. I want those two teams to win because neither one of those has ever won. Yeah. And the Vikings. Yeah, the Vikings, right? Unless they're playing the Cowboys. If they're playing the Cowboys, then obviously I'm pulling for the Cowboys, right?

9:32 I'm like that in all sports. I don't know why. I can't pull for A &M. I can't pull for Tech. I can't. I do pull for A &M. When they're not playing us, I pull for them. But Tech, that's a whole other thing. And while we're on the subject of Tech, how about that repeat of the natty boy? Yeah. The ladies got it done. Back -to -back. Yeah. That's crazy. That was the first back -to -back rematch. In like 23 or 26 years. It was like a long time. Yeah. Not the first repeat champion, but the first repeat. Rematch. Rematch. A very long time. In 23 or 26 years. Yep. And so that was really fun to watch, man. That was a good series. Good games. Man, it's such a fun tournament. It really is. I'm a Longhorn fan, right? I'd like that tournament. I like the girls' softball tournament. It is intense. Those girls play hard. It is fun to watch. Didn't we have to double dip twice? We had to, yes. We double dipped Tennessee. We had to beat Tennessee twice.

10:43 In the Super Regionals, that's a three -game series. When you get to the Super Regionals, it's basically the Sweet 16. It's a three -game series. We lost our first game to Arizona State. We had to beat them twice in a row, right? Then we go into the… The final eight, which is what they call the World Series. We lost our – it goes into a double elimination round robin, basically. We lost our first game, which means now we're in the loser's bracket, which means we have to win out. We can't lose another game. If we lose a game, we're out. We get to Tennessee in the final four, and we have to beat them twice and beat them twice. Tennessee was – The team that beat us in the first round, in the first part of that tournament. And Tech had to double dip Alabama. And they double dipped them for us to get that rematch. It was so unlikely that that was going to be a rematch that, like, if you put odds on bets toward it, you would have made a ton of money. Yeah, but here's the other thing about that is we didn't, like, we come out and it was, we put our foot on their throat to start.

11:52 Right from the jump street, yes. Both games. I mean, well, the second game, I was really worried about game two. I was like – Najri Kennedy had us for a while. If that girl at shortstop had not made that bad throw to third base, we don't win that game. Yeah. Because that scored two runs. It did. It scored two right there because she threw it away. Yeah, and then they started – they're on the defense at that point. Like, oh – And Tegan Kavon, y 'all better put some respect on her name. Everybody talks about all these other pitchers, the best pitcher in the country. Tegan Kavon is nails, man. When she come in, I was like, this game's over. Did you see the look? You could see the look in their eyes, man. When she came in, I was like, yep. We got this. That's game. And then she goes out there three up, three down. Like, closes it.

12:35 I was like, oh, yeah, we're good. In the World Series, which is the final eight, okay, the whole tournament you think that's called the World Series, it's the NCAA tournament until you get to the final eight. Then it's called the World Series. Her statistics in the World Series are unmatched, dude. She has a sub -1 ERA. She's undefeated. I don't think she's ever lost a game. In the World Series. I think she's 9 -0. Is she a junior? She's a junior. She'll be back next year. Najari is a senior. She's gone. Yeah, she's going to the AUSL, the Athletes Unlimited Softball League. It's a women's softball league, professional. Yeah. I did not know that there was such a thing.

13:18 Yeah, it starts tomorrow. Yeah. That's crazy. Cause I was, you know, like she's, she, her NIL deal is like a million dollars a year. And so that was my thing and a shame on me for even saying this. And now I'm, but I'm going to admit it and I'm going to talk about it now because I've, I've, I'm ashamed of myself, but I was like, they set that poor girl up for failure because they're paying her a million dollars a year. And then what's after this, I really hope that she did something with a degree or something. You know what I mean? Now, it's going to be a lot like the WNBA. It's in its early stages. It's subsidized by the MLB or something. The MLB is backing it. There is a couple of new investors that just came on. The Milwaukee Brewers ownership just came on. There's only six teams, okay, so it's very small yet. So the money is not going to be there right now. No, but she'll probably make a better living than me and you.

14:13 She's going to be fine. She's going to be fine. And guess what? She's playing for the Texas team. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, but my favorite player, which was Reese Atwood. Reese Atwood? Reese Atwood, the catcher for Texas, is playing for the Carolina team. So, you know, it would have been nice if she could have got picked up by the Texas team. You know, everybody talked about – I hate that the first 15 minutes of this show is going to be sports, but it's going to be longer than that. But everybody talked about that run that OU made. Texas is making them. We're starting to make that run, too. Now, they had a senior class. They had like eight years of straight, not eight years straight national championships, but they had like a crazy amount of. They won four straight national championships.

15:07 Yeah, but they had like eight appearances. In the final. Yeah. I don't know how many years in a row they were there, but it was a lot. Four straight national champions. Patty Gasso is the head coach of that team. They had a freshman class that when they were seniors had never not won the championship. You know what I'm saying? They left that school having never known not being a champion. That's unreal. It doesn't happen very often. Texas' team right now is four of the last five years have been in the championship round. Right? That's... We lost one year to OU, too. Okay, twice. We lost twice. And then we beat Tech twice. Yeah. Yeah, we lost to OU twice.

15:53 Baseball, the D1 baseball is different from the D1 football. It's so different. There's so many more teams. Yeah, and it really doesn't matter what conference you're in at that point. No, but there's eight teams right now. It's the World Series now for men's baseball. Texas is still there, right? Five of the eight teams are SEC teams. Ooh. Yeah. Texas being one. They got to play Georgia first in the final. Georgia won last night. Yeah. Against Mississippi State, another SEC team. Their two games were like.

16:34 There was like 21 home runs in two games between those two teams, man. It was crazy. It was crazy. But Texas is now making their 39th appearance in the Final Eight in baseball. It's the all -time record. Been the all -time record. Every time we go back, it's a new all -time record. You know what I mean? In men's baseball, there's really three flagship programs. It's USC, it's Texas, and it's LSU. Those are the three main. Top programs of all time. Yeah, it's like the Georgia, the Alabama of football. Yeah. So you know how back in the day with football it was USC, Notre Dame, you know what I mean? Yeah.

17:19 And now they're never there hardly. Occasionally Notre Dame shows up, USC. USC ever, like once in a blue moon. Yeah. But before it was like always. Everybody called USC, like I remember everybody like. Not everybody. I remember there was a couple people that I would hang around with. They were like, yeah, USC, freaking football factory. Like talking about them printing NFL players because it seemed like every year, damn near every one of their seniors is going to the NFL. Yeah. So it is definitely different at different sports, right? So teams that qualify to be Division I in football don't qualify to be Division or.

18:00 Division I in baseball don't qualify to be Division I in football, right? So there's like 386 baseball teams that are D1. Same thing with basketball. That's why you have St. John's. Little tiny, tiny schools, man, that are D1 in that sport, but they don't even have a football program. You know what I mean? They can't even qualify to be D1. And how they decide what's D1, D2 is based off of enrollees, right? And so in basketball, baseball, and stuff like that, you don't have to have as many enrollees to qualify to be D1. Yeah. That's how that works, really. I didn't know that. Yeah. Looks I always wondered. I was like, I've never heard of St. John's having a football team. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think they have a football team. If they do, it's not a D1 squad. Or Gonzaga. There's no football team at Gonzaga. Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean?

18:56 So we're in Canyon, right? So WT, right? You wonder why don't they play D1 schools occasionally because there's some low -end D2 or high -end D2 schools that play D1 schools. Like Appalachian State beat Michigan years ago. That was a long time ago. Yeah, and then there was not too long ago Alabama. Yeah. They had some scrubs. They paid some scrub school to come play them, and they lost. Yeah. It happens occasionally, right? So you wonder about that stuff. Do you know that Texas WT played USC at one time? Do you know that Mercury Morris, the running back, one of the running backs on the undefeated Miami Dolphins played at WT? Yeah. So back in that time, in the 60s and 70s, WT was a different program.

19:44 You know what I mean? It was West Texas State University. They played in the Rose Bowl, at the Rose Bowl, not in the Rose Bowl, at the Rose Bowl against USC. Oh, nice. I've seen a picture of the poster. It's pretty cool. Mercury and Morris was their running back at the time. Like, you know what I mean? So it was different. You know what I mean? It's just. It would be cool to see. Yeah. WT like. Like, why wouldn't you see WT play tech in one of those early scrub games? You know what I mean? They're right there. Yeah. You know? They're so close. Yeah, they're so close to each other. 90 minutes from each other, man. You know what I mean? Like, why not? I mean, dude, you know, or like TCU or. I mean, I don't think you put them in their plate. Obviously, WT's going there. Yeah, I don't see you put them at Texas. I don't see you put them at OU. But I can see like TCU, Tech. SMU. SMU. Yeah, SMU would be a great matchup. Yeah. I mean, UT El Paso, UTSA. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Or what's the one, North Texas? North Texas Mean Green. Yeah, yeah. That would be, that'd be. That's where Mean Joe Green came from. Really? That's why he's called Mean Joe Green. Mean Green. Yeah, the Mean Green Eagles. Yeah, 100%. And you know why I know all this crap? Being with my dad.

21:06 Because he's all about Texas high school football, Texas football. He's been that way forever. That's crazy that WT played USC. They did. Sure did. We could look it up. No, I'm thinking Byron Bam Morris. Bam Morris played at Tech. Back then it was West Texas State University. It wasn't West Texas A &M. It became West Texas A &M much, much later. Now they're affiliated with an A &M school. So they are technically an A &M school. The dean of A &M has some pullover. Where am I at? Where's my internet? Come on, man. It's right there. This is not that. I don't know where my screen went. Oh. I just burped in the mic, too. I'm sorry. We're going to make this episode sports. Dude, I know. It's all good, dude. You know what? We haven't done that in forever. Forever.

22:16 Forever. Let's see here. Not that one. Texas State. There's Mark Aaron Moyers about Mark Aaron Moyers. No, it was West Texas. I'm telling you. Not Texas State Bobcats, West Texas. It used to be called WTSU. Let's call it A &M. They probably just changed it. Don't let you. Don't let you use that West Texas State University anymore.

22:58 There you go. Was it USC? Maybe it was not USC. Maybe it was Notre Dame. It was a big -time school, and I was like, what? Just type in what's the highest profile team that WT's played. Okay. It's funny because we call it WT and everybody else is like WT A &M or WT SU. As soon as you say WT around these parts, everybody already automatically knows. Let's add the West Texas State. Buffaloes. Okay. 67. Look at that. Hold up. In 67, Markier Morris finished second in the nation to OJ Simpson, who was the USC Hotspot Trophy winner. What? What the hell? Bro, that's...

23:54 Okay, so what's crazy about that is that he played for USC. Yeah, he did, too. Yes. He broke several collegiate inclusion rushing yards in a single game. 340 rushing yards. Montana State. Montana State. Oh, that's crazy. I'm going to just look at his stats just because it'll show you game by game. Let's see. Dude, that is wild, bro. Wild. That is funny, dude. Second behind O .J. Simpson. You know, all you think about when you think about, oh, they were independent back then.

24:40 Oh, that's weird. Okay, I didn't realize that. They weren't affiliated with a conference then. Okay, so hold on. First and foremost. You're good. That dude was drafted in the third round by the Dolphins. And they ended up building. That was Larry Zonka, Jim Kick, and. And Marjorie Morris in that backfield. And Bob Greasy was their quarterback, dude. Hey, you know, I used to have a freaking Miami Dolphins hat autographed by Larry Zonka. Really? Yes. So in the process of all the things that happened in me being evicted from my house, it was lost. But it wasn't like, it wasn't, it was like a Miami car dealership thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was an autograph on the bill. And it was faded. It was old. But my mom gave it to me. And I had that. That's cool. That's real cool. I'm having a hard time finding their schedule. Let's see. West Texas.

25:52 See, up here in the thing, it says West Texas A &M. Buffaloes. Yeah. Let's see. Westies? Westies. Westies. 66. Yeah. I was going to go 66 through 68. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. All right. What do they call that? The Buffalo Bull? The Buffalo Bowl. What? Yeah, dude. The Buffalo Bowl. Wow. Notre Dame. Georgia Tech. Miami. Miami. What? Oh, those are standings. Those are standings. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm like, dude, they played a bunch of like. Western Michigan. And that was in 1966. Okay. Go further. Scroll down. Did you run out of real estate? Oh, here you go. 67.

27:04 Junior Rolls Bowl champion. Okay. Notre Dame. Oh, no. I'm getting excited. I'm sorry. I just want to see it. I want to know. UT Arlington was number four? What the fork, dude? Valley State. At the Rose Bowl. At the Rose Bowl. That is the Rose Bowl. Okay, so they're calling it the Junior Rose Bowl. Maybe my facts are wrong. I want to know, bro. But, dude, look at this. Look, they're the third best record in the country in 1968. What the hell? Too bad we don't have that anymore. I mean, like, look at that. Apparently, my facts were wrong. They played at the Rose Bowl. They didn't play the Rose Bowl or play anybody. And then we're, like, six and four.

27:58 Six and four. But, like, some of these schools, too, you look at them, like San Diego State. It's just crazy because it's Buffalo Bowl, Canyon, Texas. Yeah. That's literally. That's Kimbrough Stadium, bro. Two minutes from here. Yeah, you just go two minutes south, bro, and it's right there. Yeah, you know, people don't realize that there's been a lot of really great sports in our area. You know who Maurice Cheeks is? No. Ziggy Hood. Ziggy Hood played a PD. Yeah, and then William Thomas played for the Eagles. Yeah. He was a PD kid. Yeah, Mo Cheeks. Mo Cheeks played at WT in basketball. He's an NBA – I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer as an NBA player, but he's a coach too for the 76ers for years, man.

28:46 You go to the First United Bank Center, there's a statue of Mo Cheeks there when you walk into the main door. You know what I mean? That's wild. It's wild, man. Small world, you don't realize it. Also, you may not be familiar, but Jesse Honeycutt, do you remember him? He was a running back for Tech, I believe. So he played, huh? Name sounds familiar. So he played for, he played for Tech. No, he played for, oh, golly. It's, it was, they were our rivals when I played for Horseman. He played for Horseman. Okay. And that dude was a monster. Yeah. Think about Zach Thomas played at Pampa. Yeah. And White Deer. Yeah.

29:35 You know what I mean? Went to Tech. Went to Tech. Yeah, he's an NFL Hall of Famer. You know what I mean? Like, we don't think about that stuff. Or in the moment, you don't realize it. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. There's a kid that played baseball at Randall, Chance Mock. He set the single -season home run record in the panhandle. You know what I mean? Yeah. I was out of high school already. You know what I mean? I was, too. I remember that. Yeah, it was a big deal. Fat deal. Yeah, with the Astros. Yeah. And he never developed into the next thing, but, you know. He still made his money. Good for him. He made some money out of the deal, you know what I mean? But, yeah, you know, unusual that we start our show this way today, but whatever, you know what I mean?

30:17 Like, I think it's kind of one of those things that it points to your roots. Yeah. You know? I had all intentions of, like, ambushing you with some sports stuff. I mean, when I came out here, I was like, yeah, I got to know because we haven't talked since the hook them when we won. Yeah. And we haven't, like, really got together on anything basketball in a while. So it was just like one of them, I'm going to save that for this. Well, but you get me going. Yeah. And now we're 32 minutes in. Next thing you know, it's a sports show. Yeah. But it's okay. I mean, okay, so here's the thing. Here's something that you have to really consider in all this is that it's not just we, you know, as followers and as believers and as, you know, people that want to do the best they can for themselves through their walk with Jesus, there are things that interest you. Sports are something that me and you have in common. Yeah, 100%. That we. we like to talk about. So it's not like, Oh man, we're taking this. We're turning this Christian podcast into a sports podcast. No, we're not doing that.

31:36 It's just like, we're two random dudes that are just hanging out and we're. We're trying to figure out life. And so that's part of it. That's part of it. This is dude talk. That's it, 100%. You know what I mean? We were also talking about the tournament that's coming here Saturday. Yeah, the Corn Fairy Tour. That's a big deal, man. That's a big deal. There's local people that are going to be playing in that tournament trying to potentially earn. Don't you wish you were good enough to? Dude, I wish I was good enough, but I can't even hit a ball straight to save my life. I'd go out there and shoot a 112. What are you doing here? Taking my shooting my shot, bro. My name. Yes. My name is. Yeah, I'm shooting my shot, bro. You know, but that kind of thing to to me. Look, man. Chase your dream. Who cares?

32:25 Who cares what people think? Who cares about the judgment? I mean, at the end of the day, bro, you got to be happy. So when you talk. So this has really been heavy on my mind a lot. Like. intensely here the last few weeks when you talk about chase your dream yeah me and you had a really serious conversation before we started the show yeah and you know me and you have had this dream of this working yeah taken off and all that stuff and it's it has been a, and I, and I talked to you and I told you like, I feel like, you know, like I'm, I'm blessed beyond belief right now. And not just like, it's not money. It's just circumstances. Yeah. Like circumstances just happen to work out. You know, it's I, cause I'm, I'm that dude that nothing ever worked out for me before. Okay. Yeah. When I start this, I start really, you know, I, I can't say nothing ever worked out for me before, but things usually didn't. Right. And over the last eight, nine years, things have started to work out for me.

33:39 And I was flirting with being like, not flirting with, but you know, I was, I would, I was the CEO Christian for a while, you know, Christmas Easter occasionally. Yeah. I would go to church and do those kinds of things. And then the major turnaround was the invite to Bible study. And then it was like, hey, man, I got to make this a normal thing. We really kicked it in. I really started hounding her, you know, because she used to hound me. And I was like, meh. But then I started hounding her. And once I started hounding her, we really started changing our life. We really started kind of putting things into perspective. We started making it a point to make sure we made it to church. We made it to things that were, uh not not things events that were important you know like the bible studies the all that stuff and then we started this and me and you had this dream that this was going to be the thing that took us took off and through all that i have been extremely blessed and like i said not money i'm talking circumstances i'm talking like when things aren't going well it's just out of the blue something something happens and that that thing is totally erased. You know, like, you know the story about the work truck.

35:02 You know, I was self -employed, and every time I turned around, that thing was in the shop, and it's $3 ,200. Yep, I remember. When we first started doing this, yeah. And then I get rid of it, and I'm struggling. I'm not self -employed anymore. I have, like, a terrible back injury that I'm... Trying to deal with from being self -employed. I'm employed by an employer now. I get a letter in the mail stating that if you have proof of your repairs, we'll reimburse you. That was one of those things. I'm struggling to make ends meet because I don't know how to live off this kind of money. This is a big change.

35:45 And that comes in. It's like, oh. lost my ass on that truck yeah that comes in it's like oh man now we're now we're getting somewhere with this and then it was like every every every time i turned around it i didn't like win the lottery but every time i turned around the things that were hurting me you know i i have now i have health insurance yeah so this this back issue that's been killing me You know, like I'm laying in the ground, rolling around, rolling my spine on a baseball, trying to get myself lined out in tears the whole time, by the way. Yeah. Now I have health insurance and I get to get this fixed. And it's like, okay, there's step one, you know, like everything is just like working out. And it all started when I started doing all this stuff. So this decision that I was in, in the process, like I'm trying to figure out, I'm like, man, I feel like this is an issue.

36:46 I don't feel good about stepping back from here. I'm stepping back from here for just a brief momentary. I don't feel good about it, but it's kind of necessary for me to get my mind right. Things at work are getting really crazy. But when I was talking to my wife about it, I told her, I said, I feel like the reason that we are so blessed is because, not because we're... chosen or whatever it's like we go out like she does amazing things i mean she's my terry she's yeah she's my terry to you yeah 100 i can go in there i could go in there right now and damn this damn that damn all this she'll be like what do you need baby um damn all that she's right there with me she doesn't care Or I could go in there and this is where the pressure is on me. I can go in there and I can be like, I really should do a better job of being a Christ follower. She'll be like, well, what do you need from me? How can I help you? Yeah. And she doesn't, she does not judge me at all. And I don't know how, cause I would judge this shit out of me. You know what I mean? If I was married to me, I would be like, dude, I don't want to be married to you no more.

38:05 Yeah. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, I get it. The part about that is you look back at, I look back and I think about everything that's, like how life has changed over the last, it's been about three years. Because one day you just said, hey, let's do a podcast. And I'm like, sign me up. Why are we doing this? Yeah, yeah. So it's been about three years, right? Close, yeah. Over those three years, things have dramatically changed for me. Yeah, and so you have a little bit of an apprehension about – Yeah, and I was like, man, I don't want to lose that. And I'm not saying that I'm favored or any of that. I just feel like, you know, like when you – Let me try to give you some encouragement, brother, because it's not going to be the same.

38:56 It doesn't feel the same without you in this room, right? Like it's not the same, right? Like we've talked about that a hundred times. Every time we weren't able to make it happen or whatever. But that doesn't mean that it's not still the thing. You know what I mean? And look. Well, like you said, you still have every intention of reaching out. Why would that stop? Well, and that was another part of it, too. It's like, man, I felt terrible. Like, I'm sitting there. I'm like, man, I got to do this for this, number one. Is to get some clarity and regroup. I got so much going on that I just need to gather my wits. And I was like, man, that's the one time that me and you sit down and we talk and we're honest with each other. And it's like, I felt like shit because for the last five weeks. I've been struggling with this. And that's why I come in. I sat down. I was like, man, look, I'm going to rip the bandaid off. I got to get this off my chest because I didn't know how to do it any other way. I would rather you just be straight with me. You know what I mean? But I sat down.

40:15 I was like, man, I got to get this. I got to get it out. You know, because even coming in here, I was like, man, how am I going to do this? And I was like, man, whatever. At the end of the day, man, or if we just kind of break all of that down. You're not being favored because of your actions here. That has nothing to do with it. You're favored because you're blessed and highly favored and deeply loved into discussion. What we're trying to build up here are treasures in heaven, not treasures on earth, right? And so like every single person who chooses to take a chance on us or take a chance on this podcast, it gives us an opportunity to impact somebody. For the glory of God, for the kingdom of heaven, not for the kingdom of earth. You know what I'm saying? That's the point. But that was the whole issue I struggled with because me and you sat down and we got BSW goals right there. Yeah, you stare at it all the time. BSW goals right there. Yeah. Don't drop the camera. We have that, and we have that for a reason. It was keep God first, stay consistent. Those were some of the things that we talked about. The more that the pressure has come on with me, the less consistent I've been. The least attention that I've given to anything in my life has been this, and then it's made me feel bad because I'm dead serious.

41:35 Like I said, not money. I'm talking about blessing. Yes, I did lose my uncle here recently, but that was ultimately, I feel like, a blessing because he was suffering. And it was like one of those things that, and my mom, she talked to me about, she had a dream. So I do feel like he is with God. Like he, he's walked, he's with God. Yeah. You know, we, we all, I really hate to put this out there, but I feel like it's very important. And I may get, I may catch some major heat for this from my family members and stuff, but it is what it is. He, he was not a believer. And I can't tell you how many times that I prayed in there at dinner for Jesus to present himself to him, for God to present himself to him. For him to have that experience where he would understand this is what it's going to take. And my mom would tell him, I pray for you every day. And he would make comments like, well, it ain't working. You know, that kind of stuff. And my mom. My mom had a dream and she's that God is asking, telling her, why are you trying to be a savior? I'm his savior. So from that point on, it was like, okay,

43:06 I really am. I'm cool with it now. I feel like, I feel like that was, you know, my, my mom is there's one person in this entire world that i look at and undoubtedly i know that she is with christ at all time now i look at a bunch of people and know that but if i had to pick the top one that's one like i look at my mom i know that you this is you yeah i got you so when you tell me that you have this dream i'm good about it like i feel good yeah All that, yeah, that part sucked. But everything else in my life has been great. I'm really making a turnaround with, you know, one of my daughters, my granddaughter.

44:04 That whole situation, that's an amazing feeling when they're out here and, you know, you get to be grandpa. Now I'm Pawpaw. G -Paw was my name. Now I'm Pawpaw. You knew whatever she responded to. Yeah, it's just whatever, but it doesn't matter. You know, the situations with, like, look, I know it's stressful for work to lean on you and stuff like that, but it's also a blessing, too, because it means that you're good enough that they are going to lean on you. You're not going to crumble. There's a couple other things that, you know, like my marriage. We went through a really rough patch when we first got this house.

45:00 Very rough patch. It was rough. And since then, we've really, I mean, really honestly, since we moved the podcast into this room, things have changed dramatically. there's a lot of these little hidden blessings that have come along and I'm just like, man, I don't want to, I don't want, I mean, I hate, I don't want to sound selfish, but I don't want to quit this. And then those go away. You know what I mean? I don't want that to be the key. Yeah. Like, yeah. If it is, then like, dude, what am I, what am I doing? You know, man, at the end of the day, really like, again, like I just, Your heart's where your heart's at, right? And I truly believe that when we are leaning into Christ, and no matter where you're at in that particular space, how far, how fur, how far, how fur. That's the reason I had to read the opening credits. That's exactly why.

46:05 I didn't have to. Thank you so much for letting me finish. I did not think you were going to use it. and you did it's game on brother sorry yeah i'm the i'm the chinese guy reading korean hieroglyphics or what did you say it just sounded like you were from a like you were narrating a 70s kung fu movie sorry it doesn't really matter like how far you are in your walk or Like, how far you feel like you're invested or anything like that. Like, you're still in it. You're still in it. You're still in it. You're still in it.

46:47 And, like, if your heart is not committed to it, if you feel like, look, God doesn't just force you into anything. He might, right? Like Jonah. Uncomfortably. Right. Like Jonah. Think about Jonah. And Jonah tried to run. And what happened? Got swallowed by a big -ass fish. Right. And then spooked out. And then spit out. at the shore of the place that he was running from like you went through all that just to get regurgitated by a freaking fish but i mean think about that right like he may force you in but he also may force you out you know what i mean he may pull you out there are seasons in life and look you know that i'm dealing with a season two We're both in different places right now. At the end of the day... That was another part of it too.

47:32 We've had some very vulnerable conversations the last week, week and a half, two weeks. That was another part of it too. It was already in my... The process is already going through my mind and then you bring that to me. I was like... I don't want to... I don't want to do this now. You understand where I'm coming from. It's like, damn, now I'm, now I, like. You don't want to feel like you're letting me down. Yeah, because, you know, we, me and you would have that conversation and you, you know, when you, like, you have someone in a, in a, not, not a moment of desperation, but you have someone in a very vulnerable moment and they're presenting something to you that's uncomfortable. Obviously, it was uncomfortable because you called me and you're like, look, I don't know where else to take this. I don't do this. This is what it is. Well, when you did that, this whole stepping back from the podcast has been playing in my mind for a few weeks.

48:31 So you did that, and I was like, I was very generic with my response. I know. That's why he didn't say much. Yeah. And that's why I was like, man, you know what? Like, okay, he's in a genuine dire situation. The things that are going on with me are of another. part of me it's not it wasn't fair for the response that you got i mean i didn't wasn't cold i wasn't like oh let's suck it up buttercup you know i thought it wasn't like that but it was very i was very i you hit me with that and it was like shit i'm not ready what am i yeah i'm over here i'm over here playing all the things how i'm gonna talk to you about me stepping back for a few for a little while you know what i mean and then you bring that and it was like shit now what Like, I feel like the biggest douche ever. So now you understand the circumstances and how it was such a – I do.

49:34 I also know that you and I have talked a bunch of times about, like, the ability to be able to talk to each other. You know what I mean? And, like, you've kind of not berated me but gotten on to me about, like, bro. Yeah, I'm here. You know what I'm saying? It goes both ways, and it's not a one -way street. My struggle and my burden should not be yours, right? And that's why it's so hard to talk about. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. First and foremost, it's not a burden for me, okay? It's something that genuinely bothers you. It is something that you're genuinely struggling with. It's not a burden to me. It's also my problem. Burden is something that you don't want to deal with. Right. Okay? Right, right, right. Problem is something that you're willing to attack. Right, right. Like, okay, we have a problem. Yeah. When you say like, Oh, well, we got a problem. That's someone you're willing to attack. You don't ever say, Oh, well, we got a burden. Cause that's something that you don't want to deal with. Right.

50:25 Okay. So don't like your burdens, your burdens are not my burdens. Your problems are my problems. Right. That's how we're going to approach that. Okay. Yeah. So that was the part of me that was having a hard time. Right. I understand that. My thing is, is like, because you're in that place, it's not, it should not be, it's not a guilt trip thing. It shouldn't guilt you into being like, well, I'm going to just keep doing it. No, it was never that I felt that way. It was that, okay, for the first time ever, you brought that to me. Okay. And when you brought that to me in the first time ever, I'm thinking about stepping back. So it was like, well, shit.

51:09 You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. Like, yeah, good job, stupid. Like, you're genuinely struggling with a problem. Yeah. Right? And it's not, when I say problem, it's not a problem. It's, you call it, you call it a struggle. You call it whatever you want to call it. But you're dealing with something that means something to you. Right. Right? Yeah. And it means something to me, too, because you're dealing with it. Yeah. But I wasn't expecting that. And you're like, hey, you got time? I'm like, yeah. I'm sure that was the last thing you thought was about to come out of my face. I'm mulling over things in my mind, you know, like, hey, I took, what, three weeks off, and then I came back for a week, and then all this is going on. I'm like, man, I've really got to figure out how to talk to him. I want to do it to where it doesn't seem like I'm just like, piss on this. I don't want to do it no more because it's not that. It's not that. There's a lot of things happening in my professional life that are really stressful. And there's a lot of extra responsibilities getting piled onto me. And there's some other things. And it's like, man, I just, I got to, in order for me to be something that's going to be productive here, especially or anywhere else in life, I got to regroup and I got to refocus. Yep. Circle the wagons. Yeah. And then you hit me with that.

52:35 I was like, man. But. This is where I want to clarify. I'm glad you did because it made me understand that, okay, like you came to me when you were vulnerable and you talked to me. That's why when I sat down, I was like, hey, I need to talk to you. Yep. I would rather that. Because you come to me like, hey, look, this is something I'm dealing with. Yep. You know what? Yep. I'm going to pray for you. I'm going to do all these things I can for you. But that's what gave me the courage. Okay, so it's been. it was four weeks straight that I've been mulling over this with all that. I knew things were happening as far as like at work. Yeah. Like I knew things were about to change. I could feel it with how everything was kind of starting to pile up. You could see it lining up. Yeah. I knew things were changing. And then it was like, man, you had the courage to come to me when, and talk to me when you were having a problem. I was like, man, I really got to get this off my chest. Yep. It's one of the primary reasons I did it. I think I mentioned it in the conversation. I was like, man, I can't, Yeah, you can't have the conversations we've had on this podcast about men reaching out and then be the man that doesn't reach out.

53:48 Yeah. You know what I mean? And I'm not going to be sugar -coated. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not in a suicidal place, but I can see a scenario. Okay, you say that you're not suicidal, but you can see the scenario. I can see a pathway where it gets that far. That means you're suicidal, bro. If you ever envision any point in your life that you can see an exit like that, then yes, you have those tendencies. I can tell you personally right now, I've had that numerous times. I've had that a couple times over the last few months.

54:28 Yeah. But it's not because I guess it's pretty similar to, what you're going through. It's, it's more of my own personal, like it's on, it's more my own mental state. It's not because something's bad's happening because nothing bad's happening. My life is really good, man. I'm not complaining, but it's the, it's the, the ability to, to grasp the things in my mind. Yeah. The reason I made the phone call brother, cause I know that you've, I personally don't have people that I've lost to suicide. I've had, I've been experienced with my dad attempting. I was super young. It's been a very long time since that's happened. I've seen people in places where I feared that could be something, and I tried to help them. At the end of the day, I'm in a place where I know I need something. I need help. And that's why I said, hey, look, I want you to know. Primarily because I want to be honest with you. And also I want you to know that I'm seeking help. I'm not just trying to do it by myself. Okay, so here's the part of this that I don't really think you understand is that, you know, I lost two of my very best friends eight weeks apart. Eight weeks to the day. Exactly eight weeks to the day apart. Yeah. I don't want to have to ever do that again. I don't want you to either. You know what they never did to me? They never reached

55:59 out and said anything to me. Yeah. Like, I got a phone call at 3 o 'clock in the morning one morning, right? And then about a week later, my other buddy that killed himself reached out to me, and he asked me if I was okay. And I was like, yeah, I just don't understand. And he said, I don't understand either. So I lost one. We were super close. And. I mean, like that one, I was when I got the phone call that said he was gone, I was thinking, man, he he like he was drunk and he wrecked his truck. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. And then when they said he hung himself, it was like, what? We were just we were with him Wednesday. It happens Friday.

56:53 Yeah. And exactly, you know, not exactly. Roughly a week later. another one of my very best friends calls me. He's like, hey, how are you doing? I seen him at the funeral, but it was like just in and out, passing. Yeah, I mean, it was a really bad circumstance, you know, and he asked if I was okay, and I said, I was like, no, I don't understand it. Like, I don't understand why he wouldn't. He was so happy. I seen him Wednesday, and he was so happy. Yeah. Not reach out, like not say anything, not ask. I mean, and everybody knows this story. Everybody that listens knows the story. He was one of the biggest advocates for me getting clean. Yep. He, he, he harped on me. I mean, he was on me. 24 seven. He was on me to a point where at one point me and him were actually beefing about it. Like, dude, I will just give me, cut me some slack. Shut up.

58:00 Leave me alone for a little bit. And he's like, no, I'm done with this shit. You're done. Yeah. Like you're going to, we're going to, you're going to quit. You're going to come hang out with me. Like we're going to, uh, and exactly eight weeks to the day, eight freaking Fridays. My other homie shoots himself. After we had that conversation, he's like, are you okay? And I'm like, no, I don't understand. And I mean, you know, we tried to record one night, and I was having a mental freaking breakdown about this. I didn't understand. And sometimes I still don't. Sometimes I still get real. Yeah. I have that.

58:43 So don't, you know, coming to me is. It's a hundred times better than the alternative. You know what I mean? And the part, that's why I felt so terrible because you came to me and I was like, I'm here. I am. I'm mulling over business decisions, things that are going to be there tomorrow. That's always going to be there tomorrow. Yeah. You know, a human life is not always going to be there tomorrow. Right. And so that was where the, that's why it was so hard to open up and really talk to you about it is because I just struggled. with it. I mean, it was, I get it. I do understand.

59:24 I can totally understand that. It's easy to see looking back. Like I didn't know that at the time, you know what I mean? But I didn't want, I wanted to, at the time that I said, you reaching out is it, I was, I w I'm super grateful for, I didn't have the best reaction because it was like, how do you react to that? Well, no, but because. Here I have been the last four weeks mulling over how do I talk to him about me stepping back from the podcast. I need to step back for a little bit. Then you hit me with that, and it's like, okay, this is something. I don't know how to step back now because I don't want to be the one that lets you down in your time of need. But I also wanted to be the one that's honest enough with you to say, hey, man, look, I know you're going through something, and I'm going through something too. Yours is, to me, yours is more important to me. Mine is not a – yours was a dire situation. You reached out in kind of a dire need. I'm not doing that. Mine is more professional related. Still good for your mental health, man. Still good to get those thoughts corrected. I was having a really hard time with how I was going to handle this tonight, and it came out good. I feel like it came out good. Let me – Let me say this, bro. This is a, it's not even the end, man. It's just a pause.

1:00:51 You know what I mean? And you're still my brother and I'm still going to reach out to you. And I'm still like, if I'm in a, in a, in a state of need, I feel comfortable enough to reach out. I will. It's hard. Damn it. It's hard. It's hard to do. It's hard to say. But I want to be an example to others. They got to do it too. Damn it. Reach out to us. Reach out to somebody. Make a phone call. Send a message. Call 811 or whatever the number is. I don't know what it is. There's a crisis hotline. Call it. I feel like I'm reaching out before I'm at that point. And that's... But I know I'm at a point that it's getting close.

1:01:43 I'm getting – not even close. It's far enough where it's like, okay, I'm – You're starting to think about it. If you're starting to think about it, it's close enough. I'm getting really terrified at this point. And I don't want to hurt people. I don't want to leave people behind in such a way. I'm not designed that way. I'm not meant to do that. I have more to do here. I want to help people. And I truly believe that every challenge we go through is an opportunity to grow. is preparing me for somebody else or something else later, for me to be able to help somebody later. But I have to heal first. I have to get through my own first, and that's part of it. So I don't know what I'm dealing with.

1:02:23 I don't even really know what the true problem is. I just know there's a problem and I need help, and I have been making the steps to get the help. I've talked to a couple of people, including my pastor. I reached out to a counselor today, privately contacted them. Ask them to, you know, can they fit me in? Can we talk something? Is it going to be a fit? It's going to be a Christian counselor, somebody who's got the same values as me. And I really need to talk to a man. You know what I mean? Because I don't, not that a female can't help me. I just feel like I can't be completely honest with a female. You know what I mean? I need to be able to talk to a man. So that's where I'm at, man. And it's hard to talk about, especially in this forum. At the time that I spoke to you, you were the third person I had spoken to. I talked to my wife, I talked to my dad, and then I talked to you.

1:03:16 But I wanted you to know that I was taking the steps. I didn't want to call you and be like, bro, I don't know where I'm going, but this might be the end. You know what I mean? I wanted to call you and say, hey, look, man, I don't know where I'm at. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what I need, but I know I need something. And so I'm going to do the necessary thing. I'm going to put in the work to get better because I deserve it. I deserve to be better. And the people around me deserve me being better. That's it. So, you know, we always end this show with a joke and a wisdom. But before, I'm not going to tell a joke. I'm going to say a prayer. And this is something that I never do, but it's pretty compelling right now. Father God, in all your glory, I just ask that you take your healing hand that we know is so powerful and you place it on everybody that's struggling with something that's threatening their lives or threatening their mental state. Father, this is going to sound very, very controversial. I know that June is typically known as Pride Month. It was first men's mental health month. The mental health of men is such a struggle. Father, I just ask that you put your hand of healing and you help people and you present yourself to those that don't know you, Father, that they may be saved

1:04:47 from the enemy and have abundant and eternal life, Father. We know that the sacrifice that you made in your son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, was for our Savior, so we may have an eternal life. We thank you so much for that, Father. You are the healing effort that comes from us or for us. We thank you so much. And it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. What holds five toes? Wait, hold on. I got to do it, dude. I got to do it. I got to lighten the mood. I have to lighten the mood. It's a tradition. Yeah. Okay. What's the – wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Fork. Holy fork.

1:05:35 I just bought my grandma a new stair lift. All right. It's driving her up the wall. Praise God. Thank you, Jesus. That's hilarious. This one's a little bit lighter for me. It's an unknown quote. Don't know who said it, but it says, everything is beautiful depending on the situation. A school bell is irritating at 9 a .m., but the same bell sounds melodious at 4 p .m. Funny how that works, isn't it? Perspective matters. Okay. And I really just want to take a minute to... I tell you, thank you for reaching out. Thank you for answering.

1:06:37 Well, I mean, you don't got to thank me for answering, but, you know, the reaching out part I know is hard. Yeah. But I can't – I don't think I'm equipped to lose another one like that. I'm not that guy. I mean, I'm not. You know, it – It really does. It weighs heavy on me every freaking day, dude. I mean, I'm being dead serious. It weighs super heavy. I know. I'm not prepared to let you. Just reaching out is a huge step. I love you, brother. I love you too, brother. I mean, I don't want to ever hear anything. I don't want to ever hear about. a suicide ever again. I mean, in the history of ever, if I never heard about another one, I'd be the happiest person alive, but that's kind of my goal. I don't want that to happen to anybody. It's not just me. You know, I think it's like every 22 seconds. It's a lot. It's, it's, it's really, it's very often. There's three quarters of a million people a year in the United States that die by suicide. Uh, four out of.

1:07:49 One out of every four of those are female, so four times the amount are men. There are 14 million attempts a year. 14 million attempts at taking their own lives a year, which means there's a lot of failed attempts. But there's a lot of people on very loose edges trying to survive a war zone. This life is hard. We need each other. We need Christ. We need peace. my entire motivation wasn't I need to make sure I'm being a good example. My entire motivation was I need to make sure that I'm doing, I'm giving my best effort. Okay, let me just offer you like a promising little tidbit, okay? You're, you are changing the world.

1:08:45 through your efforts and your beliefs. And the enemy is going to attack you at your strongest point. Absolutely. So in order to keep you from making these changes and reaching out to people, he's going to put you in that position where he's going to make you feel like your life isn't important anymore or like your struggle is not important anymore. This is an attack. And let me tell you this because this has weighed heavy on me for the last few weeks. If the enemy's not attacking you, it's because he's already got you. Yep. Okay? I agree. The enemy only attacks you to keep you from trying to reach out. If he already has you, he's not going to attack you because then you're going to start reaching out to God. What's he fighting for? Yeah, he's not fighting for anything. Why would he fight if you're already there? Yeah, if you're already reaching out to God. He's going to start really attacking you because he wants you to question that. You know what I mean? 100%. So. I agree.

1:09:52 You know, I mean, this has been a great conversation. Sorry to take it there, brother. No, this is, we started sports. We end up here and it's for a. It's great. It's awesome. It's real, man. I thank you, and I'll be back. I'll be back. I just really – I love you, brother. I love you too, brother. You got to do – you got to get what you need just like I got to get what I need.

1:10:35 This is something to me that I still have to do. It is beneficial to me. It helps me. It's not a burden. It isn't. I love doing it, actually. I enjoy the editing. I enjoy the clipping. I enjoy doing it. It's something that consumes my time, but it's focused and it's driven and it's something that keeps me off of other things. You know what I mean? Until next July. until next July when I get my trike. It's coming. But it's not goodbye, man. It's just a pause. But here's another thing, too. So there's like this movement, and I've talked to you about it, the Bikers with Bibles. Yeah. It's a pretty cool thing that they do. They take Bibles to these prisons, and they try to preach the gospel and stuff like that. when I hear stuff like that, like I'm not that guy. That's like, I'm not a MC guy. I'm not a motorcycle club guy. I'm not this. I'm not that. Like, I'm just, I just like to get out and get a little wind therapy, do that kind of stuff. But it'd be real cool to have a purpose like that. Like, you know, like every Sunday, like we know, like at four o 'clock, we're going to ride to so -and -so and, and drop off bibles and. reach out and talk to that kind

1:12:08 of stuff you know i mean 100 your hobby should also be a passion yep you know what i mean and i feel like it's not a passion if it doesn't have purpose and and it can't have purpose unless it's something that you hold true to your values and your roots and that's something that you know me and you both know for hand in hand without question We love you guys. Thank you so much for listening. Love you, brother. I love you too, brother. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to be a part of this. Thank you for reaching out to me. Thanks for answering. Man, I know you don't want to hear that, but there have been plenty of times in my life where I didn't get an answer, so I do appreciate it. And it ain't over. I'm here for you. I know. I know. This is not the end of anything. I know. It's just a pause, man. And Bumper Sticker Wisdom is going to still be here. And, you know, people are going to ask, where's Jason? Well, he'll be here when he's ready to be here. I'll be back at some point.

1:13:17 He's going to share jokes with my wife because I'm sure that's who's going to fill that chair. Man, we love you. We thank you. Come on with this ride. If you need help, please reach out to somebody. Absolutely. Absolutely reach out. Whether it's this podcast or it's the Crisis Hotline or if it's a friend or a pastor or somebody, reach out to somebody. Stranger. Take the courage. Sometimes a stranger has the best. I have had that experience where a stranger has been the one to talk me down. You don't even know. Just reach out. I mean, start the process. Things change.